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re: Student loan pushed back again

Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:44 pm to
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I sure as hell shouldn't have to pay for everyone else's.

Why not? I paid your tuition.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10564 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:47 pm to
This situation has me torn, as I have a hefty amount of outstanding loans.

I feel as though I am obligated to repay them. I took them out, it's my responsibility.

On the other hand, to remedy this entire situation, take all the existing government backed loans and set them at 0% plus an administrative servicing yearly fee.

Start payment July 1st. That seems like the best way to resolve this issue.

Government ensures principal is repaid, the politicians can throw a win out at reducing the interest rate and the taxpayer is not out any money.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4158 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:49 pm to
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I feel as though I am obligated to repay them. I took them out, it's my responsibility.


Posts like this crack me up. I'm sure you'd be real up in arms should they pass law that would waive your entire loan balance.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10564 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:50 pm to
I don't feel that should be done. I'm against waiving any balance to be honest. That's not fair to the taxpayer or those who paid off their loans.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 1:52 pm
Posted by AllDawg
Evans GA
Member since Jan 2014
1516 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:25 pm to
I paid my loans off starting 90 days after graduation. frick em I don’t want to hear the sob stories
Posted by Buck Wylde
Member since Jun 2019
472 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:27 pm to
I pay what I owe. Screw anyone who doesn't. I hope they never get paid off by the government.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:30 pm to
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That's not fair to the taxpayer or those who paid off their loans.

What's not fair to you is how cheap school used to be. My first semester in 1983 was $526 for full-time classes, full meal plan, and a room in North Stadium Dormitory.

$526 in 1983 is about $1,500 today. LINK

LSU estimated in-state costs today are about $12,000 per semester. LINK

Costs for higher ed have outstripped inflation by an order of magnitude. How is that fair to the prospective student today?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72063 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:32 pm to
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Costs for higher ed have outstripped inflation by an order of magnitude. How is that fair to the prospective student today?
It isn’t, but one unfair situation doesn’t absolve another.

That doesn’t even address the fact that the existence of loans is a heavy driver in regards to tuition price increases.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 2:36 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:55 pm to
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It isn’t, but one unfair situation doesn’t absolve another.

Aktually, it kinda does.

Especially because, "...the existence of loans is a heavy driver in regards to tuition price increases." They're forced into it, where I was not.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6567 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:58 pm to
If these kids joined the Navy for 8 years wouldn't the Dept. of Defense pay off their student loans ?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65881 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

If these kids joined the Navy for 8 years wouldn't the Dept. of Defense pay off their student loans ?



because that's the same as getting a liberal arts degree?
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12302 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:03 pm to
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I think this is pretty much a necessary decision due to rising rates


I shouldn't have to pay my mortgage loan because I think it's necessary due to rising rates. Do you not realize how stupid this is? People CHOOSE to get loans for VARIOUS reasons. The fact student loans are the reason is and always was for VOTES.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5005 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:03 pm to
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On the other hand, to remedy this entire situation, take all the existing government backed loans and set them at 0% plus an administrative servicing yearly fee.

This is what I've been saying for a year. The government could leave the principle and forgive the interest and let holders pay back just the existing principal. Instead we get some arbitrary "loan forgiveness".
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

I shouldn't have to pay my mortgage loan because...

Difference is, people get out of their mortgages all the time. You can't get out of student loans. Why is that?
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27165 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:14 pm to
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Difference is, people get out of their mortgages all the time. You can't get out of student loans. Why is that?



Only form of debt that can't be discharged in bankruptcy.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53760 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:16 pm to
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people get out of their mortgages all the time. You can't get out of student loans. Why is that?


Your home/property can be repossessed, your degree can't.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:18 pm to
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Your home/property can be repossessed, your degree can't.

So Chapter 7 only covers collateralized loans?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53760 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:23 pm to
edited..I was typing faster than my brain was processing...Chapter 7 cannot relieve student loans or owed child support judgements. Examples of unsecured where it can be applied is things like medical bills and lawsuit judgements
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 3:26 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

I would expect this to continue until majority of loans are wiped.

Supremes about to end this BS permanently

A prez has zero authority to wipe out contractual debt between the govt and an individual. All debts taken on by the US govt has to have originated in the House, not the administration

Forgiving these loans adds immediate debt to the treasury, since that money has already been expended, with the expectation of return. Also, loans already forgiven, will be immediately reinstated


I hope you are mentally prepared for that
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11154 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

largest loans are taken out by Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, etc. These jobs do pay well but also force you to live in areas that are more expensive in general.


I dont think these people were getting their loans forgiven anyway. Isnt there a maximum income requirement?
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