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Stubhub cheats dude out of Kobe final game tickets
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:27 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:27 am
How the hell can they do this? LINK
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:29 am to SurfTide
Because you're an Alabama fan and the losest common denominator by genetics
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 12:30 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:31 am to SuperSaint
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Because your an Alabama fan and the losest common denominator by genetics
Because you're an Alabama fan and the lowest common...
FIFY.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:35 am to SurfTide
Meh. Who wants to see that POS play anyway?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:36 am to SuperSaint
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Because you're an Alabama fan and the losest common denominator by genetics
Because you're an Alabama fan and the lowest common denominator by genetics
Still missing one there homeslice
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 12:37 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:58 am to SurfTide
It sucks royally, but with a thread title of "Stubhub cheats dude out of tickets" it is worth remembering that it wasn't ever Stubhub's tickets. It's not them that kept the tickets for profit.
It was the seller that ultimately did it. Stubhub's service is just to facilitate the match, and give assurances that it's not a fake.
Lesson to be learned here is to try to apply pressure of you think prices can skyrocket. Don't wait three weeks for the seller to wait and see when they already have it in hand.
Stubhub prob can do a lot more for you then compared to after.
It was the seller that ultimately did it. Stubhub's service is just to facilitate the match, and give assurances that it's not a fake.
Lesson to be learned here is to try to apply pressure of you think prices can skyrocket. Don't wait three weeks for the seller to wait and see when they already have it in hand.
Stubhub prob can do a lot more for you then compared to after.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:18 am to Volvagia
If you read the article it states that the seller could face a penalty fee because they sold the tickets at a lower price, so there is an incentive for sellers to back out of deals in instances like this.
But Stubhub just tweeted out that they fricked up and will get Jesse to the game.
But Stubhub just tweeted out that they fricked up and will get Jesse to the game.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:21 am to Cap Crunch
There isn't a penalty for selling at a lower price. There is a penalty of 20% of the market value if the seller backs out of the deal.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:22 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:23 am to Cap Crunch
They also tweeted they dont condone their sellers backing out of sales but the article kind of calls BS on that.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:32 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:23 am to SurfTide
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How the hell can they do this?
It's clearly stated in the linked article that you yourself posted.
For those too lazy or as stupid as the OP Stubhub charges 20% of the original sale if tickets are not delivered, so ticket sellers are incentivized to renege if prices skyrocket like these did.
Its the product of a dubious policy, not some grand mystery/injustice of "The Man" screwing the common people.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:27 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:28 am to Cockopotamus
Reading the comments, it appears as if another ticket company stepped in with tickets. I really don't understand how a seller can legally back out. If money has been exchanged, then the seller is no longer the legal owner of the tickets.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:28 am to SurfTide
What the frick?? Didn't know that was possible
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:29 am to Cap Crunch
I did read the article.
That's why I said that in cases when you expect the prices going up massively, you are going to want to get the tickets in hand ASAP.
Not let weeks go by and do nothing, and pat yourself on the back for getting the tickets at a fraction of the cost, and still do nothing for weeks more.
Not saying the buyer is at fault here, but that is the lesson to be learned from this.
With their credentials and track record, people seem to forget that Stubhub is just a marketplace.
Chicken wouldn't be held liable for shinanigans on the ticket exchange, would he?
All Stubhub promises you is that the ticket is not forged and coverage if the event is cancelled. Not that the seller follows through. If the buyer was as shrewd with foresight as he wants to portray himself, he would have gotten antsy when the tickets didn't ship after a few days after purchase.
Make up excuses to Stubhub to try to get them to force the sellers hand beforehand. But get those damn tickets. You don't actually have them till you have them.
That's why I said that in cases when you expect the prices going up massively, you are going to want to get the tickets in hand ASAP.
Not let weeks go by and do nothing, and pat yourself on the back for getting the tickets at a fraction of the cost, and still do nothing for weeks more.
Not saying the buyer is at fault here, but that is the lesson to be learned from this.
With their credentials and track record, people seem to forget that Stubhub is just a marketplace.
Chicken wouldn't be held liable for shinanigans on the ticket exchange, would he?
All Stubhub promises you is that the ticket is not forged and coverage if the event is cancelled. Not that the seller follows through. If the buyer was as shrewd with foresight as he wants to portray himself, he would have gotten antsy when the tickets didn't ship after a few days after purchase.
Make up excuses to Stubhub to try to get them to force the sellers hand beforehand. But get those damn tickets. You don't actually have them till you have them.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:39 am to Cockopotamus
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It's clearly stated in the linked article that you yourself posted.
For those too lazy or as stupid as the OP Stubhub charges 20% of the original sale if tickets are not delivered, so ticket sellers are incentivized to renege if prices skyrocket like these did.
Its the product of a dubious policy, not some grand mystery/injustice of "The Man" screwing the common people.
I'm talking about how can they "legally" do this fricktard. Their job as an instant ticket exchange marketplace is to facilitate the transaction, which means that they should be responsible for a failed transaction. Sorry I had to spell it out for you.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:39 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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I really don't understand how a seller can legally back out. If money has been exchanged, then the seller is no longer the legal owner of the tickets.
Again, it is a trusted intermediate to broker tickets.
The seller never recieved the money.
Stubhub only pays out to them after the tickets are delivered.
The transaction never took place. Stubhub held the funds in escrow for the seller to have the option of utilizing.
The seller wanted to wait and see if prices would go up so he didn't finalize.
A month passes
Prices shot up.
The option was now worth a lot less, so the seller doesn't execute.
Escrow money returned to buyer, fee charged to seller for wasting everyone's time.
When I put it that way, in many ways Stubhub is analogous to a stock brokerage.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:51 am to SurfTide
quote:Looks like Tickets for Less is seizing upon a PR opportunity and reaching out to this guy via comments section. Solid move by a lesser known site to get relatively cheap pub off a major giant's system failure.
Jason Durbin · VP of Ticket Operations at Tickets For Less
Jesse Sandler – I’m the VP of Ticket Operations at Tickets For Less. We’ve reached out to TheLeadSports.com and are trying to contact you. We have four seats for you in section 106 for Kobe’s last home game. Please contact me or our President Dan Rouen at 913-685-3322.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:51 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 2:05 am to SurfTide
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I'm talking about how can they "legally" do this fricktard. Their job as an instant ticket exchange marketplace is to facilitate the transaction, which means that they should be responsible for a failed transaction. Sorry I had to spell it out for you.
"They" meaning Stubhub can not and will not show up on the ticket seller's doorstep and force the tickets from their hands in order to deliver them to the ticket buyer.
So to encourage the delivery of the deal, ticket sellers agree to a charge of 20% of the original sale if they don't deliver on the transaction.
This system incentivizes ticket sellers to hold and back out of deals in which tickets to athletes like Kobe and Jeter's potential final game are sold at a percentage of their final worth before the athletes announce their retirement.
So the ticket seller can list the tickets on the market place and wait to deliver them until just before the game takes place to ensure the value does not go up beyond the 20% charge from Stubhub. If the value of the tickets rises and exceeds the 20% charge to the point that it is timely and profitable then the ticket seller can just cancel the transaction and either go to the game or seek another avenue to sell the same tickets (highly unlikey Stubhub allows relisting on these types of tickets)
This is undoubtedly in the fine print of the agreement Stubhub has every user agree to.
Sorry I had to spell it out for you
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 2:12 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 3:33 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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They also tweeted they dont condone their sellers backing out of sales but the article kind of calls BS on that.
It's kind of a "three strikes and you're out" approach that SH takes with sellers
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