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re: St.George haters getting caught in lies again

Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:53 pm to
The East Baton Rouge sheriffs office is the property tax collector for the entire parish
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:54 pm to
Which seems to be a running theme for a lot of services in the parish.

About the only things which are city-provided are BRPD and BRFD. Almost everything else is a parish wide tax for services.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:56 pm to
Correct.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41660 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Incorporated city in Zachary. As in why my profile says “Zachary, LA”.


LOL

Those don't mean anything =)

I'm guessing then Zachary pays a fee to the sheriff to collect taxes on the city's behalf. St. G could do the same.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:58 pm to
Dumbass, I only said that the sheriff collected everything on behalf of the city. I explicitly said I don’t know shite about any fees charged.

Read the post.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:58 pm to
I don’t know how many times it needs to be explain to you… The sheriffs office is the tax collector for the entire parish Inc. municipality, or not.

The same goes for the parish finance office. They collect all sales and use tax for the parish, incorporated municipality, or not.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104455 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

I'm guessing then Zachary pays a fee to the sheriff to collect taxes on the city's behalf. St. G could do the same.


The Sheriff's office is paid by the Parish-wide taxes... I doubt that Zachary or Baker or Central or Baton Rouge proper is paying an extra fee for them to do their jobs that taxes are already paying for.

I could be wrong, admittedly.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41660 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Which seems to be a running theme for a lot of services in the parish.

About the only things which are city-provided are BRPD and BRFD. Almost everything else is a parish wide tax for services.




Ok... so then tell me again why St. G. is doing this? If they aren't going to have any real power or authority to do anything? The parish isn't redistributing fire money from them. Maybe some police money. If everything else is parish wide money and parish wide services, what exactly is going to change? The parish wide money is still going to be used to the betterment of city oF BR and to the detriment of everyone else.

Is it really just about the ability to later form an ISD?

I really thought St G was going to be more of a real city.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41660 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

I don’t know how many times it needs to be explain to you… The sheriffs office is the tax collector for the entire parish Inc. municipality, or not.

The same goes for the parish finance office. They collect all sales and use tax for the parish, incorporated municipality, or not.


I was asking if that was the case in the incorporated cities in EBR not named "Baton Rouge". that's been answered in the lat 6 or so posts... so thanks for the clarification.

Understand the rest of Louisiana operates in a different way.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:03 pm to
Because right now Baker, Central, Zachary, and BR have direct control over their budgets.

The unincorporated areas? They get the honor of paying the lion’s share of the parish cost.


St George gets control over their money and they get the ability to do whatever projects they want while BR can no longer fund pet projects for NBR at the expense of unincorporated SBR.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41660 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

The Sheriff's office is paid by the Parish-wide taxes... I doubt that Zachary or Baker or Central or Baton Rouge proper is paying an extra fee for them to do their jobs that taxes are already paying for.


For police and jail and related protection, etc. Yes.

In LA... many if not all sheriffs are also tasked with tax collection. They collect taxes on behalf of other parish agencies and distribute the funds (less a fee).

Most cities in LA collect their own taxes. Apparently, that is not the case for the cities in EBR.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:04 pm to
First and foremost, they will have the ability to create an independent school district.

There are also certain segments of existing tax collections that would fall under the control of the muni.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Understand the rest of Louisiana operates in a different way.


EBR is not the only consolidated government in the state…
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41660 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

St George gets control over their money and they get the ability to do whatever projects they want while BR can no longer fund pet projects for NBR at the expense of unincorporated SBR.


But how is St G going to get control over "their money" if the vast majority of taxes and services are parish-wide?

For the record, most of what I have read goes against what you and Doubled are saying. I think the parish is going to cut you off on a lot of this stuff AND stop collecting the money for it. That's where St. G. is going to work. And again, this should be the goal.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:08 pm to
How many consolidated governments are there?

EBR, Orleans, and Lafayette?


Of those, pretty much all of Orleans is incorporated into New Orleans anyway while Lafayette is in the process of attempting to kill the merger.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104455 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

But how is St G going to get control over "their money" if the vast majority of taxes and services are parish-wide?


Local sales tax. The other entities are all property tax based.

quote:

I think the parish is going to cut you off on a lot of this stuff AND stop collecting the money for it.


Highly unlikely. Why would they? The Parish-wide entities have no reason to do this. Why would they give up that tax base?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:10 pm to
Biggest area of control will be in road/infrastructure improvements on non-parish & state-maintained roads.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:11 pm to
St. George ain’t happening in this day and age. It’s too exclusive and politically incorrect
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

St. George ain’t happening in this day and age. It’s too exclusive and politically incorrect


Saved for October 12th 2019 @ 11:59pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53816 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

St. George ain’t happening in this day and age. It’s too exclusive and politically incorrect

I don't think there's much anyone can do to stop it. If Jefferson Terrace/Inniswold is any indication of the area as a whole, I think it's going to pass. I drove through there at lunch and there were St George signs everywhere. I saw one "No St George" sign.
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