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re: State Farm is mandating a "Multicar policy" on my family

Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:49 am to
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:49 am to
Usually it’s due to weight. Has to be rated commercial personal use sometimes
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15588 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:50 am to
quote:

have been with SF for 20+ years.


Found your problem.


Shitty insurance companies do shitty things to the customers.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33987 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:51 am to
we aren't talking fault. We are talking coverage. "no fault state" is the legal term for when a state does not require drivers to have liability bodily injury coverage.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13135 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:51 am to
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StateFarm for everything for the entirety of our adult lives and maybe 3 claims total in over 25yrs


So you're a huge profit center that is price insensitive. And you will continue to overpay for insurance because you like the fact that you drive by the agent's office on the way to the grocery?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13400 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:02 pm to
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So you're a huge profit center that is price insensitive. And you will continue to overpay for insurance because you like the fact that you drive by the agent's office on the way to the grocery?


We have to have insurance. I know SF is shitty in a lot of people's experience, but it's been fine for us. Why fix what ain't broken?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13209 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

What is their reasoning?


Allstate won't insure the truck because they say it is a commercial vehicle even with the state, 3 of them since I have owned it, registering it as a light truck. As far as the multi-car discount thing its apparently only good for up to 3 cars. I shopped our insurance around last year toward the end of November and our rates were as good or better than any I got quotes on. We pay right at $1000 a month for 6 cars, 4 of which are driven about 5000 miles a year if that. No one has any tickets, no claims, just damned expensive to own a car I guess.

They have suggested we install their tracking devices to save money but I am pretty certain they use those devices to go up on rates instead of down. I drive like an old lady and can keep breaks on everything I drive for years and years but my wife, son and daughter all think slowing down involves hitting the brakes at the last minute...
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:07 pm to
If you’re in GA, that MC policy is changing and won’t be limited to 4 vehicles
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13135 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:10 pm to
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shitty in a lot of people's experience, but it's been fine for us. Why fix what ain't broken?


Insurers generally give agents bigger bonuses for new sign ups, and also help incentivize lower prices for the *new* consumer to depress the price, at least for 6mo-1 year. Think about how cell phone companies try to tempt the hell out of new customers, and tend to sort of treat the existence of the current customers like second class citizens.

You shop insurance at least every year to take advantage of the subsidies to your overall cost for those "new" sign ups. You could jump back and forth between All State and SF every other year and just save money.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Insurers generally give agents bigger bonuses for new sign ups, and also help incentivize lower prices for the *new* consumer to depress the price, at least for 6mo-1 year. Think about how cell phone companies try to tempt the hell out of new customers, and tend to sort of treat the existence of the current customers like second class citizens.


Simply isn’t the case with SF. Why would I want to spend all this money on payroll and advertising to not take care of my existing book of Business? I get paid the same on a new customer or someone who’s renewed for the tenth time.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86338 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

More and more of the big carriers will deny claims for any driver not listed in the HH. Let’s say an undisclosed teen driver, your neighbor, a friend. Permissive use covers you in those instances
This is mandated in La.
(2) Shall insure the person named therein and any other person, as insured, using any such motor vehicle or motor vehicles with the express or implied permission of such named insured against loss from the liability imposed by law for damages arising out of the ownership, maintenance, or use of such motor vehicle ...
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13209 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:22 pm to
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If you’re in GA, that MC policy is changing and won’t be limited to 4 vehicles


I am - I will ask about it. Thanks!
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13135 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Simply isn’t the case with SF. Why would I want to spend all this money on payroll and advertising to not take care of my existing book of Business?


I'm paraphrasing what I've had local SF and Geico agents tell me over, and over, and over again. You respond to incentives from corporate to score that trip with your family to Europe for a month. The incentives change depending on what product corporate wants to push in what quarter.

I wasn't saying you don't take *care* of the existing book, but the lure of the All State agent to take someone off your book for at least this year, is pretty damn strong. You send out a card for their birthday or anniversary, and answer their phone call when they ring you once every seven years, like the lady I was responding to. Whoop de do.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11104 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:38 pm to
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Because he can’t afford to pay them all at once.


If so, pay monthly for all of them.
Posted by 4Bagger
Member since Jan 2025
612 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:38 pm to
You should have left SF 3 years ago when they began supporting the youth trans movement. I did, and went to Farm Bureau.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:45 pm to
FFS
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

You respond to incentives from corporate to score that trip with your family to Europe for a month. The incentives change depending on what product corporate wants to push in what quarter.


This is true for agents chasing promos instead of profit
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23891 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

This is mandated in La. (2) Shall insure the person named therein and any other person, as insured, using any such motor vehicle or motor vehicles with the express or implied permission of such named insured against loss from the liability imposed by law for damages arising out of the ownership, maintenance, or use of such motor vehicle ...


Now do the exclusions in the policy. Just because you have permission does not mean you are insured.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86338 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:38 pm to
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Just because you have permission does not mean you are insured.
Example? I have never seen a company get around this.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98732 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:42 pm to
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DCtiger1


Before I ask my State Farm agent

My son gets his license in a couple months, if I don’t add him to my policy are they going to deny claim when he gets in an accident?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:43 pm to
I would add him as a permit only right now, doesn’t rate them on the policy. You’re going to want them to be added. Don’t give a company a reason to non-renew.
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