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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:39 pm to
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Y'all got to be getting sick of this story.


Just a bit. My anger about it all shifts on a daily basis. Today...I am absolutely pissed that there are so many people from outside of not just Ferguson but outside of STL and they appear to be the ones perpetuating things the most right now. You have no idea how bad I want to knock that scrawny white dude with glasses and a microphone right the frick out.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
85640 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:40 pm to
what percentage of patient complaints do you think are actually termed malpractice?

I'll go try to find a stat because I don't know. But I worked for a surgeon and he served on numerous medical review panels and only said the doctor was guilty one time
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:40 pm to
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Incorrect. There may not be any immediate consequences. But because the doctor has to handle his own liability insurance, his own mistakes are eventually borne by him financially in his insurance premiums. With public servants, those costs are shifted back to the public. It increases a lack of accountability because they don't bear the financial burden even when they're judged to be liable.


So the cost of the doctors mistakes are passed on the public to cover his insurance premiums? They just take a loss right? Again your comparison sucks. I'm still waiting for a similar case to this one BTW to show why it is the FPD's fault the protest are going the way they are. Try to keep up.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:41 pm to
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Does cnn order these hosts to make Wilson look as bad as possible and to contradict their guests if they say anything claiming Wilson might have been justified?



Yes. There is a director.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Maybe so but since I don't have personal experience with dirty cops its hard not to trust them.


Unfortunately, I used to call some friends. Guess they still are but I just don't talk to them anymore. And yes, they're in north county. No, not Ferguson.

ETA - But I'm friends with many more that are good.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128857 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:43 pm to
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So the cost of the doctors mistakes are passed on the public to cover his insurance premiums? They just take a loss right?


If there was no elasticity of demand and/or a monopolistic supply, you'd have a great point. Keep swinging, buddy. You're looking great.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12416 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:43 pm to
Given the current debate on this thread, I assume it is a slow news day? Been away this AM.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Given the current debate on this thread, I assume it is a slow news day? Been away this AM.


Yeah, we're just beating the same dead horse for the 678th time.

ETA - Sorry. Make that 691st time.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:44 pm to
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They all want justice...and have already made their minds up that justice will be a conviction...without knowing all the evidence

Which they did and started protesting too soon. See the shite storm it blossomed into? Any subsequent mistakes only added a little fuel to the flames.
Posted by Alabama Slim
Team Massie
Member since Jul 2007
10666 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:45 pm to
I love how these former police chiefs of cities with millions of citizens and vast resources are commenting on a police force with a population around 20k with very little resources and very little tax revenue.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:47 pm to
I am not friends with any
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:47 pm to
CNN is now running "the other side of the story", you know, from the racist point of view and support for the racist cop
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:49 pm to
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Which they did and started protesting too soon. See the shite storm it blossomed into? Any subsequent mistakes only added a little fuel to the flames.


I got no problem with them holding vigils, marching, protesting, demanding answers, making sure that things aren't just swept under the rug. If you wait until after it's swept under the rug, all the protesting in the world likely won't bring justice. What I have a problem with is the violence. All of the other things can be done in a peaceful manner without the violence. The net result could end up being the cop being exonerated and I still don't have a problem with people voicing their concerns or distrust or anger, even if I disagree with them, as long as it's peaceful.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:51 pm to
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If there was no elasticity of demand and/or a monopolistic supply, you'd have a great point.


Please explian your point, if you can actually explain it without simple belittling someone who has plenty education/experience in the medical and business field/ownership. Because last time I checked that doesn't effect the Dr's passing on the bill. As a matter of fact I've studied specifics for individuals out of pocket cost of healthcare over the last 30 yrs and where it comes from. But what do I know, I just stay on point.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Which they did and started protesting too soon. See the shite storm it blossomed into? Any subsequent mistakes only added a little fuel to the flames.


Sad thing is the community leaders continue with the thought that they should protest...how many nights before they realize they can't have a peaceful protest?

I just don't see how some think any of this will have a positive impact on the "cause"
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:55 pm to
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love how these former police chiefs of cities with millions of citizens and vast resources are commenting on a police force with a population around 20k with very little resources and very little tax revenue.


If you know Kelly's position on police rights, or even just read the first few paragraphs of the article, you will quickly see his stance on police tactics. The way he treated citizens in NY doesn't exactly line up with bass's previous post about how police should act.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128857 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:55 pm to
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I got no problem with them holding vigils, marching, protesting, demanding answers, making sure that things aren't just swept under the rug. If you wait until after it's swept under the rug, all the protesting in the world likely won't bring justice. What I have a problem with is the violence.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:56 pm to
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Given the current debate on this thread, I assume it is a slow news day? Been away this AM.


Yeah, were just hear to see bass run in circles and try to make himself feel smart. It's quite entertaining.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
85640 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:59 pm to
He's different today. I suspect he's in a bad mood
Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:00 pm to
So is the shite stirrer Rev AL still there?
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