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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129670 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

No I was asking did they have it Sunday?

They had seen it according to FPD on Saturday. STL Co apparently didn't get a warrant for the video until the following Friday.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:17 pm to
will 2nd autopsy findings be released to public...we will discuss the pros and cons of releasing that info when it becomes available. Such hypocrites I thought they want everyone to know the truth
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

That's a weird note.


Is that what you read it to mean though?

If so, there is no argument that this cop realized MB was their suspect if they were still looking for the suspect at 7:00. If Wilson knew MB matched the description at 2 or whatever time the shooting was, then there was no need to be looking for the subject still 5 hours later. I'm surely reading something wrong.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:18 pm to
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County PD filed for it on Friday morning. Released it same day. FOIA request and all.


Why did County file for it Friday if Ferguson already had it on the 10th?
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30448 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Why did County file for it Friday if Ferguson already had it on the 10th?


Ferguson had a disk copy, county got the hard drive. Also, allegedly, the disk was unreadable when used on Ferguson PD computers. File type problem or something.
This post was edited on 8/16/14 at 6:21 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

No I was asking did they have it Sunday?


Read those reports because I might be reading it wrong. As I read it, Ferguson (not County) had it Sunday. Didn't/Couldn't watch it until Monday. Computer issue.

Thanks Anonymous. No idea if they were the cause but wouldn't be surprised.
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12366 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:22 pm to
When the autopsy reports comes back and find he was not shot in the back. That is when the riot is really going to start. If it does come back that way.. Not saying it will but it does look for army to be in town for awhile.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:23 pm to
The family already knows if he was shot in the back. Wouldn't they? I'm no forensic expert, but seems to me a quick look by someone half educated in it could determine that.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85757 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:24 pm to
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When the autopsy reports comes back and find he was not shot in the back. That is when the riot is really going to start


The morons are going to try to claim that the cops manipulated the evidence and removed the bullets from the body. Thats why he was on the street for 4hrs. They were pulling the bullets out.


Just wait, I guarantee someone will say it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129670 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Is that what you read it to mean though? If so, there is no argument that this cop realized MB was their suspect if they were still looking for the suspect at 7:00. If Wilson knew MB matched the description at 2 or whatever time the shooting was, then there was no need to be looking for the subject still 5 hours later. I'm surely reading something wrong.

It seems too easy to be true. But I read it like you did.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85757 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

The family already knows if he was shot in the back. Wouldn't they? I'm no forensic expert, but seems to me a quick look by someone half educated in it could determine that.


Yes, like I said earlier, when they got the body early in the week, Krump said they were having a second autopsy done.

They would have those results immediately and they haven't said shite. I have a feeling that it came back and they didn't like it. You know if there were bullets in his back, their lawyers would be out screaming for an immediate arrest.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129670 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:26 pm to
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They would have those results immediately and they haven't said shite. I have a feeling that it came back and they didn't like it. You know if there were bullets in his back, their lawyers would be out screaming for an immediate arrest.

Agreed.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30448 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:27 pm to
In my opinion, if the facts, behind the scenes, were totally falling in place for the family's story the rhetoric would not be as strong. Just my observation. Im not saying one way or the other.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85757 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

Agreed.


I initially thought there was no way that the officer could be justified in all of the additional shots after the initial one from within the car.

However, lots of bits of info have come out and I am really thinking that the DA doesn't get a true bill from the grand jury, if he even takes it to them.

shite is going to hit the fan.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5923 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:30 pm to
That is what I'm waiting for. Just like in the Travon case the media only use young innocent little boy pics, and then all of the sudden BOOM, he is 6'4" 300+ beating up akbu getting him some blunts. Forensics will prove this case one way or the other. Hate to say it, but the family is looking for a payday.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88323 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:31 pm to
Couldn't you see a grand jury passing it along though? Letting it go to trial and putting it in the hands of a jury?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:33 pm to
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Couldn't you see a grand jury passing it along though? Letting it go to trial and putting it in the hands of a jury?



yes, and i pray to god the officer gets Mark O Mara as his defense.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159044 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:33 pm to
Will they have to sacrifice this cop to keep the whole country from rioting?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85757 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

Couldn't you see a grand jury passing it along though? Letting it go to trial and putting it in the hands of a jury?



Unfortunately, yes.... However, I hope that they would take their jobs seriously and not let emotions play into the facts.

If this case went forward, it will immediately be moved to another venue and then if/when he is acquitted, you will hear "Why didn't the people of the city get to be on the jury"
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85757 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:34 pm to
Kevin fricking Jackson on CNN....
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