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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/16/14 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 1:57 pm to
I know. It was called stupid yesterday
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 1:58 pm to
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So KSDK the local NBC affiliate, showed the Cops house and where he lived.


Dumb people errywhere.
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 1:58 pm to
But in the context of his sentence he meant black people so just say that
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 1:59 pm to
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@mattdpearce: Jay Kanzler, attorney for Ferguson Market's owners: "The police flat out told us they weren't going to do anything." LINK
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 1:59 pm to
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But in the context of his sentence he meant black people so just say that



I see what you are saying but that is touchy. It's a PC thing.
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:00 pm to
Black people is not racist
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:00 pm to
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Based upon the changing story of Brown's friend, and the description he gave of the supposed execution, I would find it hard to believe that it happened that way 100%.
I can't really picture a policeman executing an unarmed person. Maybe, but I would kind of doubt it.

For me also, we are given a snapshot of the victim minutes before this happened. He appeared to be filled with arrogance and confidence. It's easier to see him fighting back with the cops, as opposed to him raising his hands in surrender only to be executed by a cop for no earthly reason.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:01 pm to
The number of shots is largely irrelevant to me. I just want to know whether it was necessary to use lethal force, especially considering police officers have non-lethal weapons used to take down unarmed suspects.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:01 pm to
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LMAO Yes his postings this week have been all about maintaining the peace with no hyperbole at all. So unlike the guy on a first name basis with everyone at the State Ethics Commission.


Personally, I think he is guilty of trying seek the limelight because he has political aspirations and that makes me sick. Whether he truly means what he says or is saying it because of political aspirations I have no idea. Either way, I don't think his interest is in protecting looters. Just my opinion.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:02 pm to
Guys we have found the cause of all of this. We can stop arguing now.

quote:

KOOL A.D. ?@veeveeveeveevee 2m
MINIMUM WAGE IN FERGUSON IS 7.25 PER HOUR, MORE THAN 2 BUCKS BELOW THE CALCULATED LIVING WAGE 4 THAT AREA & ABOUT HALF WHAT COPS THERE MAKE
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:02 pm to
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For me also, we are given a snapshot of the victim minutes before this happened. He appeared to be filled with arrogance and confidence. It's easier to see him fighting back with the cops, as opposed to him raising his hands in surrender only to be executed by a cop for no earthly reason.


Personally, I am wary of putting too much stock in this.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Black people is not racist


I don't think so either but some people seem to need that outlet so as not to be singled out. Just sayin.
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:02 pm to
Ah good point
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:03 pm to
Lol. A wage increase would lead to fewer jobs there. I'm Ansolutely certain that tweeter has never had to figure the cost of labor for a business.
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:03 pm to
Cops make $15 an hour? Wtf
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:04 pm to
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especially considering police officers have non-lethal weapons used to take down unarmed suspects.



Was he carrying a tazer??
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:05 pm to
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The number of shots is largely irrelevant to me. I just want to know whether it was necessary to use lethal force, especially considering police officers have non-lethal weapons used to take down unarmed suspects.

Completely agree with you on this Sabi. That's honestly I think the most important question in this whole debacle. But seeing the surrender hands in protesting seems crazy to me. That seems like one of the most unlikely scenarios in this whole matter, yet that's what they've latched onto. And now that additional info has come out, interesting how they still hold onto that. No matter what, I think they've gone all in, and will allege that's what happened despite what evidence comes forth.

Otherwise, they would have to admit they were.....wrong.

ETA: changed likely to unlikely
This post was edited on 8/16/14 at 2:09 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:06 pm to
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Was he carrying a tazer??

Police rumor mill says yes. But police rumor mill also said he was black. So TIFWIW.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:06 pm to
They don't make much

That's why you see them working security on the side
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15267 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:06 pm to
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Cops make $15 an hour? Wtf


in those small munis, maybe a dollar or 2 more. this is why you do not get a great force in small munis.

Why would you leave the City, 36K to start to make $16n hour? Thus the AA officers aren't going to be there. They are in City, County, Larger munis that pay more
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