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re: St. George Movement is Back!
Posted on 3/2/18 at 12:52 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 3/2/18 at 12:52 pm to TeddyPadillac
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No one is taking their kid out of St. George, or PBS and sending them to a public school.
Probably not but young families that cant afford private school move to or stay in St George instead of moving to the surrounding suburbs.
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 12:56 pm to tom
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Other than the schools, EBR is crushing those two parishes in public services.
Yet those areas continue to grow and BR's population is flat or declining. It's almost as if less crime and better schools are more important.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 12:56 pm to tom
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Other than the schools, EBR is crushing those two parishes in public services.
True, but public schools are a MAJOR issue for middle class voters. A lot of parents are willing to forego the convenience of living near their place of business for their children's benefit.
Keeping those people and their tax dollars in East Baton Rouge will be a huge long term boost for the region and Baton Rouge in particular.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:00 pm to fallguy_1978
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It's almost as if less crime and better schools are more important.
They are. But St. George incorporation doesn't actually offer either of those things.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:01 pm to tom
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They are. But St. George incorporation doesn't actually offer either of those things.
It already offers less crime simply by not being in NBR.
I agree it won't offer better public schools
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:04 pm to tom
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They are. But St. George incorporation doesn't actually offer either of those things.
It's an attempt to address at least one. The quality of schools depend mostly on the quality of the students attending them.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:05 pm to Jimbeaux28
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Look for the city limits of Baton Rouge to expand again while jumping over all the residential areas.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:10 pm to nicholastiger
quote:School Board will have a say for sure - new schools will need to be built and transportation provided. I don't think a majority of School Board will go along with this.
The lack of services they will provide will be bad for both. I don't see how you get around the legal issues with the schools.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:11 pm to skinny domino
WHere do I sign?
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:12 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:I believe the population of ST. George would be at least 5 times greater than Central and Zachary - they will have to build new schools - $$$$
How's this any different than what Central did?
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:16 pm to skinny domino
According to the 2010 census and Wikipedia,
Zachary ~15k
Centra ~ 27k
The St George website says about 86k in the proposed city
Zachary ~15k
Centra ~ 27k
The St George website says about 86k in the proposed city
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:18 pm to TigersSEC2010
I'll be shocked if this doesn't get on the ballot this time.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:18 pm to TeddyPadillac
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No one is taking their kid out of St. George, or PBS and sending them to a public school.
If the public schools in a hypothetical St. George ISD are as good as Central or Zachary, a lot of them will. Not all, but a lot.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:19 pm to tom
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Other than the schools, EBR is crushing those two parishes in public services.
Like what, specifically?
What public service is provided by EBR that is not provided by Ascension and Livingston that would be readily used by a demographic like the proposed St. George?
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:22 pm to TigerGrad2011
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That area is what helps fund EBR schools!! So what, about 10 schools will be taken away so that they can have FULL control over their schools like central. They want to make sure they have full control on who can enroll in their schools and bring in different resources to better their schools ??????? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
Oh the horror of a community wanting to better their schools.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:25 pm to Antonio Moss
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Look for the city limits of Baton Rouge to expand again while jumping over all the residential areas.
Again, recent changes in the law prohibit annexations while a petition for incorporation is being circulated
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:33 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Again, recent changes in the law prohibit annexations while a petition for incorporation is being circulated
I know. I was alluding to the fact that no person was annexed into BR City last time. They systematically hopped over residential areas to capture commercial taxes.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:39 pm to Antonio Moss
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I know. I was alluding to the fact that no person was annexed into BR City last time. They systematically hopped over residential areas to capture commercial taxes.
It's actually common in every state to allow annexations that follow streets but capture no actual property to "link" one area to another.
Baton Rouge annexed some businesses like that. Those businesses don't need a nice school district, but probably would appreciate the high rating of Baton Rouge's fire department. Of course Baton Rouge wanted to undermine the potential future city of St. George by eliminating portions of their sales tax base.
I just noticed that the new Pecue Lane interchange and surrounding area is still in the St George limits.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:41 pm to Antonio Moss
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What public service is provided by EBR that is not provided by Ascension and Livingston that would be readily used by a demographic like the proposed St. George?
Better roads, sewers, etc. Of course we are just talking more about being "less crappy" and not necessarily superior infrastructure.
The schools in East Baton Rouge outside of Zachary and Central suck pretty badly. Those are huge public services that middle class taxpayers actually rely on.
And nothing is really stopping Ascension and Livingston from passing their own local taxes to improve their infrastructure either. They will eventually have to do it. Ascension is actually already working to improve their craptastic sewer system.
This post was edited on 3/2/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:44 pm to LSUBoo
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If the public schools in a hypothetical St. George ISD are as good as Central or Zachary, a lot of them will. Not all, but a lot.
Central and Zachary still do not come close to comparing to Catholic High.
Baton Rouge metro area has the 4th highest percentage of students attending private schools in the country, based off stats in 2014 LINK. New Orleans metro was 1st. That's pretty telling considering a very large portion of that metro area is considered Livingston and Ascenion, all public school attendees pretty much. The number is 19% in the BR metro area that attend private school. What do you think it is in St. George? closer to 50% i would assume when you don't have to count the public school attendees in Ascension/Livingston/Central/Zachary. It's a mindset with most of these families that they are going to send their kids to a private school. That will not be an easy mindset to change. All of the people that attend private schools in BR, could have easily moved to Zachary, Central, Praireville or Livingston, but they don't do that for the most part.
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