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re: St. George Movement is Back!

Posted on 3/3/18 at 2:18 am to
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 2:18 am to
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But i refuse to raise my kids in a SJW environment -- one that teaches anything white is evil and that everyone needs a trophy. I would work 8 jobs just to ensure mine can go to private schools and not rot in EBR where school zones are changed to make F's appear to be C's for school report cards.

Meanwhile, what is Warren Drake thinking or what was he thinking getting involved in EBR? That man must really love a challenge.


I live in Central so I don't really have a dog in this fight but I find it amazing that even after all this time that most people (like yourself) are completely unaware that incorporating a city has literally zero legal implications in terms of forming a new school system. The school system would remain the way it is and there's no legal requirement to form a city in order to have an ISD.

When Central and Zachary formed their own school systems there was legal basis by which incorporating a city showed that they were not just trying to usurp desegregation mandates brought on by federal oversight. At the time it was the only way to get their own school system. Things have changed. There is no longer federal oversight that mandates desegregation in EBR and thus there is no legal requirement to comply with desegregation and no direct benefit to the school system by forming a city. You can literally just skip the forming a city part if you want to and are willing to put effort into it.

The people who wanted to form a city *really* want to form a city no matter what and they were more than happy to parade something the black caucus said around as being the gospel. Basically one of them quipped that they couldn't have a school district until they had a city and were ignorant of the actual laws. This notion that the black caucus will suddenly support the St. George ISD after a city is incorporated is naive at best. You will likely have to do it without their support anyway.

My recommendation would be to propose legislation again to get an ISD formed and this time offer concessions in helping EBR schools with legacy costs and accrued liabilities in the future. If its about controlling your own school system and not about money then this should be fine. I say this because getting legislation passed is not the largest hurdle to overcome. It's the voters in EBR that will present the biggest challenge.

The fact of the matter is that even if such legislation to get a new school district passes the legislature it will still have to win a parish-wide election. Success depends on burning fewer bridges in Baton Rouge and Baker.

Central and Zachary also had a much easier and less controversial time with the parish-wide vote because it they were already their own distinct communities and were nowhere near as disproportionately large of a tax base as South Baton Rouge is today.

Anyway, I understand people generally just foam at the mouth and pick a side now days but I just thought I'd chime in and try to provide some realistic insight.
Posted by LAS
Member since Aug 2017
477 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 7:21 am to
At the end of the day you're still in LOUISIANA the worst place to live in the country so who cares.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98745 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 7:44 am to
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there is zero downside to signing the petition and getting the measure on a ballot.
you can always continue your research and decide not to vote for it


This.

I was probably going to vote for it last time, but I damned sure thought it deserved to be put to a vote.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:00 am to
I am for people from this area deciding on allowing or denying permits for construction and zoning requirements instead of someone from inside Baton Rouge.

When EBRP Govt allowed a subdivision to be built right next to Jones Creek something is wrong.
The zoning board really does not care about how this could affect subdivisions around it during the next flood or the new neighborhood.

A few days later our metro council gets mad at the Iberville Parish President for wanting to put burrito bags up protect his parish during a flood. This would affect neighborhoods in our parish built in a flood prone area which they should have never allowed to be built.

They keep allowing new construction in SE BTR while not building up the roads to handle the construction.

Our garbage service is horriable.
Inside the city they get BFI dba Republic Services.
We get Richard’s Disposal which we are lucky to get our cans picked up once a week which we are suppose to get twice a week service. Bulk service can sit for up to a month even if you call 311.

Hopefully having a city govt with people from this area making decisions over this area will help solve some of these issues.
This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 8:03 am
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:07 am to
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Our garbage service is horriable.
Inside the city they get BFI dba Republic Services.
We get Richard’s Disposal which we are lucky to get our cans picked up once a week which we are suppose to get twice a week service. Bulk service can sit for up to a month even if you call 311.



We never have garbage problems in unincorporated parts in northern part of parish.


Zachary will have issues though.

We get bfi because that's who parish has contract with.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11480 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:14 am to
Unbelievable what the area governments are allowing to be built in all these swamps, flood plains and cow pastures that used to hold or absorb a lot of water.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24279 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:15 am to
#MBRGA
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19481 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:18 am to
BTR is going to be burning tires and banging drums in response.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:21 am to
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Unbelievable what the area governments are allowing to be built in all these swamps, flood plains and cow pastures that used to hold or absorb a lot of water.



Zachary rubberstamps everything, so areas that never flooded before flooded.

But not the new neighborhoods who raised the earth, causing the waters to back into older ones.

Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11480 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:26 am to
Zachary actually changed their code. I think they are getting somewhat smarter. Problem is neighborhoods popping up outside city limits near Zachary follow Parish code which is pretty lax for what this area needs in regards to flooding.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:30 am to
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Zachary actually changed their code. I think they are getting somewhat smarter. Problem is neighborhoods popping up outside city limits near Zachary follow Parish code which is pretty lax for what this area needs in regards to flooding.



All those neighborhoods on Pride-Port Hudson between 19 and Old Scenic was Zachary.

Raised flood plain five to six feet. Water had no where to go.

Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8971 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:32 am to
Ready for St. George to slow the growth down in Central. Hopefully we get a new mayor this year too.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 8:36 am to
Central is way too spread out.

Nothing about it feels like a town. Still seems like unincorporated areas.

Y'all need to figure out what the town is exactly.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 9:37 am to
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Our garbage service is horriable.


Really? I've always thought garbage people in EBR were awesome. They pick up twice a week, do recycling once a week, and will pick up pretty much anything you leave out by the road.

Of course I'm in central now so I don't know if that's changed. For some reason I thought we used EBR for trash.

Compared to Livingston parish it's great.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 2:34 pm to
They miss some streets in my area on a consistent basis. We are suppose to get twice a week service. We are lucky lately to get once a week curb side service. The contract says they have 24 hours to make it up which they don’t even after complaining to 311, mayors office, and our councilman. Bulk service it can take up to a month for them to pickup bulk even after calling 311 the day after they miss the route.

BFI dba Republic Services has the contract. unfortunately, they use Richard’s Disposal as a subcontractor and they are horriable. I finally got the contracts along with extensions through public information act. Nothing being followed in the contract to protect people in this parish. Yes, I am singing the petition in hopes we can kick BFI and their subcontractor Richard’s Disposal to the curb and get another service provider in our area.

I really can care less about other parishes services. I care about mine and it stinks.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 3:41 pm to
Sorry. You are overthinking this. Dumb it down a bit.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 4:20 pm to
I don't have a dog in this fight but Support St. George now. When I did have property in Baton Rouge I was against it. Something has to change.

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