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re: St. George: BTR: 1st ‘taxes will go up’ Now ‘brace for cuts’
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:21 am to Huey Lewis
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:21 am to Huey Lewis
Long term they may need it.
Short term, SO is already covering the area and most of the areas are relatively calm since Gardere didn’t make the cut this time around. Yes
Short term, SO is already covering the area and most of the areas are relatively calm since Gardere didn’t make the cut this time around. Yes
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:23 am to BlackAdam
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St. George has done a great job of painting this as unincorporated vs. NoFlo, but that isnt accurate.
BS
SG has taken the high road while Holden and now Broome have done everything they could to block a new city.
They annexed areas solely for tax dollars even though they knew they couldn’t provide services. They ran a scare campaign. They played the race card at every turn,
SG has nothing against Goodwood, Southdowns or any other neighborhood. And the one making everything about NBR is our current mayor, it’s not SG.
Everyone knows this.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:23 am to BlackAdam
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t isn't jsn't north BR. It is Kennilworth and Southdowns, Old Goodwood, and a dozen other middle class neighborhoods in the city.
Our neighborhood is just inside the city limits (Woodland Ridge).
I'm still in favor of allowing the people to vote on the formation of a new city. Trying to change the rules in the middle of the process because they don't think they'll like the outcome is ridiculous.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:25 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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Oh good god...are you serious with this bullshite??? Have you ever watched a city council meeting??? You CANNOT "build some trust" with the North BR leadership.
It's definitely bad. I guess you're right that it is much better to sit around and bitch about things.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:27 am to LSUTigahs18
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It's hilarious to me that so many people magically trust this same St. George leadership that has failed over and over again in previous positions of power. This plan has serious holes in it. You are naive or stupid if you don't see budget instability in their plan (whichever one you want to look at). But hey, they have a group of people trying to be trendy and starting to call the area St. George now, so at least a few people are listening. Some of us have been in South Baton Rouge for decades. It's never been referred to as St. George. Those that support StG knew how it was before they moved here. If you don't like it, leave. No government is perfect, especially not in Louisiana, and politics will influence the decisions of every city here no matter what it is named. Onward with copycat movements though!
Who are you even talking about that is St George leadership that has held previous positions of power?
It seems you feel so strongly against, so get out and vote my man.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 8:29 am
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:27 am to Huey Lewis
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Within a few years the city will have to budget for probably 20-30 million to run a ~100 man department. Just by comparing to other cities around the state this should be obvious.
Crazy talk.
Look at the two options:
Status quo, SG doesn’t become a city.
Second option SG becomes a city.
In either situation the population stays about the same, there would likely be the same number of crimes, but so why would the police situation change?
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:28 am to SlackMaster
quote:There's your problem...people are no longer sitting around and bitching. We'll be voting this October on a new city.
it is much better to sit around and bitch about things.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:28 am to doubleb
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Holden and now Broome have done everything they could to block a new city. They annexed areas solely for tax dollars even though they knew they couldn’t provide services. They ran a scare campaign. They played the race card at every turn,
This is where I fault city leadership. They have good reasons for not wanting STG to happen. It simply won't be good for the area overall (not just BR itself). But, like the STG leadership, they resort to emotions and scare tactics rather than lead with the facts of why they believe it to be bad. Terrible "leadership" all around.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:29 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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There's your problem...people are no longer sitting around and bitching. We'll be voting this October on a new city.
This is true. Short-sighted, but true.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:29 am to Halftrack
Looking at the map. I see the mall and Seigen marketplace would stay with the city.
I also notice the mostly black area of unincorporated South Baton Rouge were left out of St. George. (Gadere) I was pretty sure the original St George map ended at the city border.
If st George had a ghetto, it would be easier to fight off the racism and country club city comments. The bad they could vote against. The good, that area has potential.
This will be great for the people in St George but it will devistate the city.
I also notice the mostly black area of unincorporated South Baton Rouge were left out of St. George. (Gadere) I was pretty sure the original St George map ended at the city border.
If st George had a ghetto, it would be easier to fight off the racism and country club city comments. The bad they could vote against. The good, that area has potential.
This will be great for the people in St George but it will devistate the city.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 8:34 am
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:30 am to SlackMaster
quote:That's because they have no facts to back up their claims.
they resort to emotions and scare tactics rather than lead with the facts of why they believe it to be bad.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:31 am to SlackMaster
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It's definitely bad. I guess you're right that it is much better to sit around and bitch about things.
SGeans aren’t sitting around and bitching though.
They are trying to change things up and city hall is mad.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:31 am to SlackMaster
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It simply won't be good for the area overall (not just BR itself).
It can't be worse than the status quo. BR is losing population to LP, AP and out of state.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:32 am to doubleb
Related topic-if StG PD forms and is that large, how much of an EBRSO is needed?
The vast majority of the area they do primary coverage on is getting incorporated if this passes.
You think they will need the current level of manpower if this happens? They’ll still be covering Gardere but they won’t need near the number of deputies if their coverage area shrinks.
The vast majority of the area they do primary coverage on is getting incorporated if this passes.
You think they will need the current level of manpower if this happens? They’ll still be covering Gardere but they won’t need near the number of deputies if their coverage area shrinks.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:32 am to ell_13
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Math is hard
The only people struggling with the hard math appear to be those along with the EBR Mayor who do not seem to comprehend that they’ve been co-mingling funds generated by the Parish and by the City. The creation of the City of StG will force EBR to finally accurately expend funds as designated instead of using non-incorporated area taxes for city expenses and improvements.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:32 am to Duckhammer_77
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they will start putting millage increases and new millages up for vote in BR. And without the StG area to tell NBR to pound sand, they will pass just like the COA bullshite got through.
this will be the slippery slope toward becoming Jackson, MS. The more BR govt squeezes, the more people leave. If StG passes, Im concerned my property values in Riverbend will start to slide. Wife & I are already talking about do we move now or do we wait and see what happens. Dont want to be one of 10 houses on the block with sale signs in the front yard.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:33 am to SlackMaster
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You'll be duplicating every part of city government BEFORE any services are even provided.
You mean the services the citizens of St George are already paying for? And disproportionately so?
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:33 am to SlackMaster
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This is where I fault city leadership.
You are wrong, These are parish leaders fighting for one part of the parish over the other.
They are the ones who divided the parish.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:33 am to Napoleon
Then maybe the city should have annexed these areas decades ago when they developed rather than expecting all the money to sweep into their budget.
Shitty planning by BR isn’t St George’s problem.
Shitty planning by BR isn’t St George’s problem.
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