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re: St. George: BTR: 1st ‘taxes will go up’ Now ‘brace for cuts’
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:56 am to Huey Lewis
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:56 am to Huey Lewis
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I'm not aware of any direct taxing mechanism whereby StG residents pay a tax to fund BRPD though.
Then you need to research more.
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:57 am to bigfatpimp
This all comes down to money and the EBR admin refusing to admit that they're doing a shite job of governing on a dual level.
If they lose St. George, they lose a ton of money. If they don't fight for St. George, they concede that their complaints are valid.
If they lose St. George, they lose a ton of money. If they don't fight for St. George, they concede that their complaints are valid.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:57 am to Oilfieldbiology
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This time, they figured if they were going to be called racist anyway, why not draw the lines to make it easiest to govern?
The great and knowledgeable people of Gardere didn't want to join or they would have signed the petition. Why should SG force a group of people to join?
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:00 am to LStU
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Y'all should really look into the City of Baltimore vs. Baltimore County situation to review potential parallels with this St. George movement.
As an outsider looking in, I understand and agree that St. George has a right to do this. That said, look at Baltimore and you'll see the potential hardships that this could create.
I think everyone knows the City of BR especially NBR will become a disaster. City Council, The Advocate, Business Report, the elitists and on and on should have recognized this issue a long time ago and did something then.
It is too late now. If St. George passes it is bad for BR especially NBR. If St. George loses then there will be a continued exodus (probably faster) to greener pastures.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:00 am to teke184
I'm saying it makes the "white people leaving baton Rouge because of black people" people look right. That's all. I'm cool with St George.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:01 am to OysterPoBoy
All the St. George organizers have to do is rely on "will of the people." When asked why they didn't include a certain area, all they have to say is that the area didn't want to sign the petition the first time around, so they felt no need to force those people into a city they didn't want to join.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:02 am to lsu13lsu
quote:Which is still bad for BR.
If St. George loses then there will be a continued exodus (probably faster) to greener pastures.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:03 am to Napoleon
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I'm saying it makes the "white people leaving baton Rouge because of black people"
As people have already pointed out, that was the narrative even with those areas like Gardere inside the proposed boundary.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
The defense of racism is as hollow now as it was then, but it won’t stop the same type of people from making it.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:06 am to ell_13
Then maybe they should have tried to fix things instead of attacking anyone who tried to rock the boat.
St George could have been happy with an ISD rather than a city but the state legislature and the metro council’s actions are fricking making the city happen.
St George may not make BR proper happy but they still get their cut of parish money if that happens.
People leave for Ascension, Livingston, or another area entirely? Not so much.
St George could have been happy with an ISD rather than a city but the state legislature and the metro council’s actions are fricking making the city happen.
St George may not make BR proper happy but they still get their cut of parish money if that happens.
People leave for Ascension, Livingston, or another area entirely? Not so much.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:07 am to teke184
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People leave for Ascension, Livingston, or another area entirely? Not so much.
Exactly. The parish really loses when people move to AP and LP.
Growth in Central, Zachary and potentially St George will keep that money in the parish at least.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:08 am to fallguy_1978
yeah the sad fact is that St George is the future of EBR Parish, either St George is allowed to thrive or the parish dies
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:10 am to Antonio Moss
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Because that area is anchored with high income, high functioning institutions:
Old Goodwood
Catholic High
St. Joseph’s
Our Lady of Mercy
100 Oaks
Country Club
It was a smart area to develop. And, ideally, you can begin to spread that development down government to I-110 (like City Social) and to Florida Blvd.
Building off of successful areas is the smart way to do it. Tara has made a big comeback too. But, they want to start in the dead middle of NBR and wonder why no one wants to invest there.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:11 am to fallguy_1978
I'm in LP. I love LP. But I support things like St. George even if I know it's failure means more money for my parish as young couples and older angry people flee EBR. I grew up in EBR, too and we're one of those young couples. I still want it to succeed. It's still a hub for business and the livelihood of most of the parishes surrounding it. This vote affects me in more ways than one... according to Colomb, I should be allowed to vote for it, too. 
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:11 am to lsu13lsu
They want to start in those areas because there AREN’T successful areas in NBR and they want a quick fix rather than something which will actually work.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:13 am to ell_13
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I'm in LP. I love LP. But I support things like St. George even if I know it's failure means more money for my parish as young couples and older angry people flee EBR. I grew up in EBR, too and we're one of those young couples. I still want it to succeed. It's still a hub for business and the livelihood of most of the parishes surrounding it. This vote affects me in more ways than one... according to Colomb, I should be allowed to vote for it, too.
I'm from Central but we lived in LP for 7 years. Currently in BR city limits. I think it would be a net positive for the parish even though we don't live in the proposed area and can't vote for it.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:13 am to teke184
Choctaw between airline and sherwood used to be... Florida and airline used to be... But they waited too long to save those places.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:14 am to Huey Lewis
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Why would they downsize? They collect just as much in taxes and would be able to reallocate manpower and bolster coverage and services in other areas. As a resident of a different unincorporated area, I want StG to be a large and thriving city in part because it frees up alot of SO resources to better serve my area.
You start off by saying as a City StG will receive the same sheriff services they receive now and that is bad because they are a city.
But, you think the Cities should pay for disproportionate sheriff services for unincorporated areas because you live there.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:17 am to ell_13
Forward thinking doesn’t match up with city parish leadership.
There used to be a lot of blue collar whites living in a number of NBR neighborhoods. They all died off while their kids moved onto greener pastures.
To illustrate the point, Istrouma High used to have a large white population and be considered a decent HS in the 70s and possibly 80s. Last time I checked, it had been shut down to avoid a state takeover then reopened as a charter academy.
There used to be a lot of blue collar whites living in a number of NBR neighborhoods. They all died off while their kids moved onto greener pastures.
To illustrate the point, Istrouma High used to have a large white population and be considered a decent HS in the 70s and possibly 80s. Last time I checked, it had been shut down to avoid a state takeover then reopened as a charter academy.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:17 am to ell_13
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Choctaw between airline and sherwood used to be... Florida and airline used to be... But they waited too long to save those places.
I'm in my early 40s and can remember Glen Oaks being a decent neighborhood. Ditto for Greenwell Springs near Airline, Lobdell etc.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:17 am to fallguy_1978
LP and AP growth isn't possible unless good BR jobs exist. Period. Good BR jobs don't exist if the schools suck, the infrastructure sucks, the taxes are too high for businesses, etc.
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