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Spotify employees threaten to strike if they can't edit/remove Joe Rogan podcasts

Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:51 pm
Well folks, it was fun while it lasted...


Digital Music News link

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A contingent of activist Spotify staffers are now considering a walkout or full-blown strike if their demands for direct editorial oversight of The Joe Rogan Experience podcast aren’t met.

Late last week, we first reported that Spotify employees were demanding direct editorial oversight over the recently-acquired Joe Rogan Experience podcast.  That would include the ability to directly edit or remove sections of upcoming interviews, or block the uploading of episodes deemed problematic. The employees also demanded the ability to add trigger warnings, corrections, and references to fact-checked articles on topics discussed by Rogan in the course of his multi-hour discussions.

Some of the group’s demands have already been met by Spotify management, though a refusal to allow further changes is stirring talk of a high-profile walkout or strike.  According to preliminary plans shared with Digital Music News, the strike would principally involve New York-based Spotify employees, and would be accompanied by protests outside Spotify’s Manhattan headquarters.  Other aspects would involve media appearances and coordination with other activist organizations.

For Spotify, the decision to offer some concessions may have only emboldened demands for wide-scale editorial oversight.

During the transition of Rogan’s podcast episodes onto the Spotify platform, multiple past episodes were omitted.  Those included interviews with Milo Yiannopoulos, Gavin McInnes, and Alex Jones.  Additionally, Rogan issued a rare public apology and correction over his claim that left-wing anarchists had set fires in Oregon, a point that was made during a recent interview with Douglas Murray.  The apology is now believed to be the result of pressure from Spotify staffers.

But those measures apparently don’t go far enough. Rogan’s claim during the Murray podcast is still part of the podcast recording, despite demands that the offending section be removed or directly corrected within the audio itself.  It now appears that Spotify is unwilling to directly edit or otherwise alter any existing episodes, with content alteration considered a bright line that shouldn’t be crossed.
Spotify’s management has also refused to remove a more contentious recent episode involving Abigail Shrier. Shrier, a Wall Street Journal writer and author of Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters, appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience in July and has drawn the most protest from the activist Spotify employees.

During the episode, Shrier sharply questioned whether extremely young women should be undergoing gender-transition operations, treatments, and therapies, while also questioning whether many of these women are genuinely trans or simply seeking acceptance and validation.  That drew accusations of transphobia from a contingent of LGTBQ+ Spotify employees, who reportedly demanded changes in more than ten separate meetings with Spotify upper management.

Ultimately, Spotify decided to keep the episode intact after judging that none of the platform’s content guidelines were broken. 

That decision has apparently been viewed as a serious affront by the protesting employees, a group that is now discussing the high-profile strike or walkout as a next move.

If a walkout or strike moves forward, it could be risky for the staffers involved.

Other corporations have certainly witnessed walkouts and even full-blown strikes by activist employees for a range of grievances.  Those protests have often been met with changes, though the employment landscape has changed dramatically in 2020.  Spotify employees reportedly enjoy comfortable salaries in the $120-$130,000 annual range, with considerable perks and benefits.  These are plum jobs in extremely uncertain economic times, making a strike a risky move.

It also appears that Spotify management — including CEO Daniel Ek — has a limited tolerance for the mutiny on deck.  Accordingly, DMN has learned that Spotify clearly shared its decision on the Shrier episode, and has declined continued demands to edit or remove other episodes.

The reason for Ek’s pushback is somewhat obvious.  Joe Rogan’s entire identity revolves around unfiltered discussion and opinion, and audiences could abandon the podcast if it becomes censored or controlled.  Earlier this year, Spotify lured Rogan into an exclusive relationship with an estimated $100 million deal.



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Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:52 pm to
Oh boy. It’s silly but I love media drama.
Posted by oVo
Member since Dec 2013
11804 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:53 pm to
are they hiring?

Joe should sue the frick out of them.. you know how much alpha brain and DMT you can buy?
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Spotify employees threaten to strike

Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:53 pm to
I don’t like Rogan, but man there are some pussies in this world.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29321 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:53 pm to
Joe should tell them to make a playlist of deez nuts
Posted by zacata88
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:53 pm to
It’s a tough situation. On one hand selective censorship shouldn’t be something anyone wants, but on the other hand you have highly powerful people like Joe Rogan spreading just straight misinformation at times and susceptible audiences (takes a look around) will eat it up because they don’t know any better.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:53 pm to
fire em all, not like any of those morons aren't replaceable.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:54 pm to
That didn't last long.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:54 pm to
Lol. Joe got in bed with the far left.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:55 pm to
how is that any different than main stream media?
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:55 pm to
You don’t think like me! Let me silence you!
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:56 pm to
Yes please, feel free to strike.

HELP WANTED
Posted by Bronson2017
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:56 pm to
Good on that CEO for not giving in. Don’t give them an inch. If they have an issue there are plenty of other companies to work for.

This is a precedent that needs to be set.
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:57 pm to
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Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:57 pm to
Ridiculous.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:57 pm to
I will never not laugh at trigger warnings.

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Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:58 pm to
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It’s a tough situation. On one hand selective censorship shouldn’t be something anyone wants, but on the other hand you have highly powerful people like Joe Rogan spreading just straight misinformation at times and susceptible audiences (takes a look around) will eat it up because they don’t know any better.


Why don't you burn those books!
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22786 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:58 pm to
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Joe should sue the frick out of them


I would hope he has iron arse clad contract language that says they can't touch his product. If they do anything, yes, a massive lawsuit is in tow.

I see this whole deal blowing up for both sides and a detente of sorts occurs, where each party agrees to just walk away from the deal without any consequences. Spotify pays out a pro-rated number (plus a little more for all the complications) and Joe goes back to YouTube full time for now, then possibly starts his own site to host his own content.
Posted by Junky
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:58 pm to
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but on the other hand you have highly powerful people like Joe Rogan spreading just straight misinformation at times and susceptible audiences (takes a look around) will eat it up because they don’t know any better.


I'd rather have misinformation than censorship.

Freedom of information doesnt mean freedom from stupidity.

This is dangerous what these spotify information nazis want to control.
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