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re: Spoke to a plumber today who gave good advice on faucets for the freeze

Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:38 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:38 am to
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Slab on grade and the spigot line is in an insulated wall proving yet again LNCHBOX consistently has bad takes


Again, never once said don't protect your outside lines. You doing a bad job at that doesn't make me wrong
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:42 am to
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I'm going to again ask for an explanation of how opening the cabinet has any effect in any of this, but I get the feeling you're just the next condescending douche that will just ignore the question.




It's more about airflow. Opening the cabinet doors allows for more air to circulate unobstructed. You will have a more consistent flow of warmer air from the heating unit if the doors are open vs closed.

I am not saying it can save the pipes from freezing as I don't think it would make a significant difference since cabinets aren't airtight to begin with but I can see the logic.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:44 am to
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It's more about airflow. Opening the cabinet doors allows for more air to circulate unobstructed. You will have a more consistent flow of warmer air from the heating unit if the doors are open vs closed. I am not saying it can save the pipes from freezing as I don't think it would make a significant difference since cabinets aren't airtight to begin with but I can see the logic.


This is the very definition of an old wives tale. Can y'all really not just admit that opening a cabinet inside your house is doing basically nothing?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:45 am to
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Again, never once said don't protect your outside lines. You doing a bad job at that doesn't make me wrong





Are you sure about that?


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Slab or not, water lines in exterior walls will freeze.


You build houses without insulation?



My outside line is in an insulated wall and was protected. Just accept that your take was bad and don't backtrack now to try to save face.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:46 am to
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Can y'all really not just admit that opening a cabinet inside your house is doing basically nothing?



I already said I don't think it makes a difference unless you have airtight cabinets.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:46 am to
Your line didn't freeze where it was insulated. It froze outside of the insulation. You can keep trying to spin it. I'm sure you'll get plenty upvotes.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:47 am to
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I already said I don't think it makes a difference unless you have airtight cabinets.


Cool, my post was for all other braniacs in this thread acting like I was the idiot for having common sense
Posted by Dominate308
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:49 am to
How long till be first frozen pipe thread is started?

My guess is by 4pm today.
Posted by CatfishJohn
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:49 am to
Let you kids know a trick:

Schedule your dishwasher to run at 3 AM.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:51 am to
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Did you fill up water buckets to flush toilets?

Sho did. Also filled up pots to use to wash dishes.
Posted by mightynine
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:55 am to
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I have never guessed that a thread about freezing pipes would be so entertaining.


Well, we can’t post doomcane model runs, so this weather thread has to be spicy about something
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:56 am to
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Your line didn't freeze where it was insulated. It froze outside of the insulation


It was insulated inside and out and it was frozen into the wall. I got the outside unfrozen quickly but took a minute to get the part inside going.

I know what you are getting at that since it had outside exposure that is why the line froze but as someone pointed out yesterday, sometimes insulation doesn't get all around the lines so assuming just because you are in an insulated house on a slab that lines won't freeze is a bad take.

A line with no outside exposure can still freeze easily and dripping faucets can help prevent that
Posted by Bourre
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:56 am to
So you’re going 4 days (I’m assuming through Monday morning) without running water during Christmas weekend?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:04 am to
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assuming just because you are in an insulated house on a slab that lines won't freeze is a bad take.


But by your own admission your insulated line didn't freeze. And let's not forget we are talking about for south Louisiana and the temps we get.

I would gladly concede the point if I had ever said don't protect you hose bibs, any exterior pipes, and supply line. But since I didn't, I'm not going to. I will concede to only talking about our region.

Posted by cyarrr
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:08 am to
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I'm going to again ask for an explanation of how opening the cabinet has any effect in any of this


lostinbr provided you with that information. I assume you are just trolling now.

In the 2021 freeze, a line froze behind a bathroom sink adjacent to an exterior wall in my house. In the other areas of the house I had opened cabinet doors and had zero issues.

It’s not rocket science, the opened door allows warm air to circulate inside the cabinet where it otherwise would not have.

Posted by LSU1018
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:09 am to
Well I have one spicket that froze up. The rest are fine and everything inside is fine. What’s the best action now?
Posted by BlueRunner
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:11 am to
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Your previous post was pedantic so I felt the urge to point out that "cold" can not be transferred because it does not exist. The pipe is transferring heat (energy) from the area with more heat to the area with less heat.

Yes everyone knows cold is a form of heat.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:13 am to
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I'm going to again ask for an explanation of how opening the cabinet has any effect in any of this, but I get the feeling you're just the next condescending douche that will just ignore the question.


Go to one of your spare bedrooms and close off all the heating vents. Close the door and come back in 4 hours and compare the temperature delta inside the room and in the hall. Then leave the door open for 4 hours and recheck the delta. This simple experiment will provide the insight you need to hopefully stop you fervently hanging on to a losing position.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:18 am to
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My guess is by 4pm today.


If it doesn’t get above freezing for a day or two, probably a day or two.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:21 am to
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Go to one of your spare bedrooms and close off all the heating vents. Close the door and come back in 4 hours and compare the temperature delta inside the room and in the hall. Then leave the door open for 4 hours and recheck the delta. This simple experiment will provide the insight you need to hopefully stop you fervently hanging on to a losing position.


That's not close to the same thing, but ok.
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