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re: Spinoff: What should constitute manliness?
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:49 pm to kingbob
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:49 pm to kingbob
Mostly self-sufficient, confident, responsible, and while considerate, doesn't let others' feelings or opinions be the main guide of his actions. Doesn't wear his feelings on his sleeves or gossip, but is not afraid to show emotion when called for.
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:50 pm to VetteGuy
and some spineless pussy who is a pushover but still honorable and trustworthy isn't a man
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:54 pm to kingbob
Doing whatever you want.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:54 pm to kingbob
What's makes a man?
Is it the woman in his arms?
Just cause she has big titties?
Or is it the way he fights everyday?
No, it's probably the titties.
Now you're a man!
Is it the woman in his arms?
Just cause she has big titties?
Or is it the way he fights everyday?
No, it's probably the titties.
Now you're a man!
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Not sure how one can be spineless and still be honorable...
We just disagree.
We just disagree.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:59 pm to VetteGuy
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Not sure how one can be spineless and still be honorable...
define "honorable" then, b/c you seem to have a very large definition
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:59 pm to Bayou Sam
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Bayou Sam
You have said (I think...please correct me if I misinterpreted you) that gender roles in the animal kingdom and primitive human societies have nothing to do with modern gender relations.
What are the (non-anatomic) differences between human males and females, in your opinion? Are there any?
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:01 pm to TigerRad
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What are the (non-anatomic) differences between human males and females, in your opinion? Are there any?
i have a very specific follow up
why did male humans evolve to be stronger and exponentially more explosive than female humans?
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:02 pm to kingbob
a large johnson
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:03 pm to S
then pj and brag are kings fo the OT
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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then pj and brag are kings fo the OT
:nb47thWardTiger:
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why did male humans evolve to be stronger
yes i was getting there too....if sexual dimorphism only extended to egg and sperm, there would be no reason for the the other physical differences. There must have been an adaptive advantage to have one stronger than the other etc. It stands to reason the brain would also work differently to some extent.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:17 pm to kingbob
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The thread on TheRedPill
Oh for crying out loud.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:23 pm to TigerRad
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What are the (non-anatomic) differences between human males and females, in your opinion? Are there any?
Do you mean essential differences or socially constructed differences?
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:24 pm to Bayou Sam
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essential differences
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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define "honorable" then, b/c you seem to have a very large definition
"Rational aggression" and "confidence" are pretty capacious too.
Frankly, I don't know many spineless people. Do you?
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:33 pm to TigerRad
I don't think there any essential differences between women and men.
Now, I do think that individuals have certain natural tendencies (so someone can be cowardly or courageous by nature, for instance). And I do think that these natural tendencies can in turn be generally clumped together among various categories, including gender.
The problem here is simple: how do you tell the difference between what is natural and what is inculcated? We know when we choose to do this or that, that these choices are products of our "will" (or what we experience as our will). However, we feel as though many things which are actually products of custom are "second nature" (i.e., not natural in fact but in appearance / experience).
Finally, the early evolutionary history of human beings is very dubiously connected to contemporary human nature. First, we really don't know much about early primitive human culture (was it patriarchal? matriarchal?). We don't know really whether we extend observations say, to tribes in the Amazonian jungle, to all human beings. It also need to be pointed out that the "hardware" of the human mind around stopped evolving ca. 100000 years ago; but what we really care about here is the software.
Now, I do think that individuals have certain natural tendencies (so someone can be cowardly or courageous by nature, for instance). And I do think that these natural tendencies can in turn be generally clumped together among various categories, including gender.
The problem here is simple: how do you tell the difference between what is natural and what is inculcated? We know when we choose to do this or that, that these choices are products of our "will" (or what we experience as our will). However, we feel as though many things which are actually products of custom are "second nature" (i.e., not natural in fact but in appearance / experience).
Finally, the early evolutionary history of human beings is very dubiously connected to contemporary human nature. First, we really don't know much about early primitive human culture (was it patriarchal? matriarchal?). We don't know really whether we extend observations say, to tribes in the Amazonian jungle, to all human beings. It also need to be pointed out that the "hardware" of the human mind around stopped evolving ca. 100000 years ago; but what we really care about here is the software.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:35 pm to kingbob
Contrary to the OTs opinion. The alpha male protects his pack.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's also worth pointing out that the male fear of being emasculated by women usurping the place of men is very ancient. E.g., the myth of the Amazons.
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