re: Spinoff thread: What questions do you have about 9/11?

I'm not opposed to that line of thinking. I'm really not. I don't think the government is perfect and I accept that it's possible they "let it happen" (although I would tend to believe if they knew the ramifications of how bad it would be they wouldn't have.) I won't sit here and tell you that didn't happen.

But I will say it's really annoying when people say the buildings were subject to controlled demolition when we saw them get hit by planes. You can clearly watch a video of the south tower collapsing and see exactly where the structure collapses, right at the point where the jet hit. I mean it's right there-plane flies into building, building fails exactly where plane hit. I cannot possibly be swayed that didn't happen. It would be like someone telling me LSU didn't actually lose to Bama in overtime last year. What do you mean, I saw it happen!

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Why hasn't tx tiger answered any of my nut job questions?

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His SOP in these threads is to reply to the softball questions or things he can twist around and stay away from the hard facts people bring up.

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LOL, when did we kill Bin Laden?? Did you see his body? His kidneys were barely functioning before 9/11, so did he go from cave to cave orchestrating these attacks with his dialysis machine??? So we dump a white blanket into the ocean and SEAL Team 6 all of a sudden dies in a helicopter crash after this raid on Bin Ladens compound? Give me a fricking break. This is sickening.

ETA-I figure we had him and let him live his life in peace and comfort. In return, he agreed to keep silent and be the boogie man we needed. Then, when he died we could "kill" him and throw a little party.








[quote]LOL, when did we kill Bin Laden?? Did you see his body? His kidneys were barely functioning before 9/11, so did he go from cave to cave orchestrating these attacks with his dialysis machine??? So we dump a white blanket into the ocean and SEAL Team 6 all of a sudden dies in a helicopter crash after this raid on Bin Ladens compound? Give me a fricking break. This is sickening.

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I do agree with this. If he really was on dialysis at the time of the 9/11 attacks and in the mountains hiding, there is no fricking way he was still alive when Obama said we killed him. Then the way the body was disposed of so quickly and the deaths of SEAL team 6 smells of shite. That motherfricker had been dead...Or we had him and tortured his arse until he gave up the rest of the turds we flushed.

The size of DEVGRU, or SEAL Team 6, is classified, but it's generally accepted that there is more than one squadron - Red, White, etc.

Allegedly, about 21 to 24 SEALs were involved in the UBL raid. Presumably, these operators were all DEVGRU. The Chinook shootdown three months later killed 38, including 22 SEALs, five of whom were part of DEVGRU. So, by my logic, five of the KIA MAY have been on the UBL raid, IF they were even from the same DEVGRU squadron.

I would hardly call this wiping out the SEAL Team 6 members involved in the UBL raid.

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would hardly call this wiping out the SEAL Team 6 members involved in the UBL raid.

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That's fine. Still don't explain how someone on dialysis survived that long in those conditions. You really think they killed HIM when they say they did? Or was the info about his original health condition wrong?

I thought the dialysis rumors were pretty specious going back to just after Tora Bora. It seemed implausible to me that a guy in such allegedly poor health could walk across 10,000 or 12,000' mountain passes. But there was so much "information" bring reported, it was hard to know what to believe.

As far as the Abottabad raid goes, I believe it happened. If they killed UBL, and especially the disposition of his body, are open for debate. I'd like to think the CIA has had him locked up in a cold dark place for the past four years while poking his nuts with a cattle prod, but I can't be certain of that. Wishful thinking, I suppose. (Full Disclosure: I believe in the "19 Muslim cave dwellers" conspiracy theory.)

I'm curious, how do you determine who is carrying the government's water and who Isn't?

How can you believe that this Turkish translator isn't in on it too?

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But I will say it's really annoying when people say the buildings were subject to controlled demolition when we saw them get hit by planes. You can clearly watch a video of the south tower collapsing and see exactly where the structure collapses, right at the point where the jet hit. I mean it's right there-plane flies into building, building fails exactly where plane hit. I cannot possibly be swayed that didn't happen. It would be like someone telling me LSU didn't actually lose to Bama in overtime last year. What do you mean, I saw it happen!

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Dude what you are missing here is all three buildings fell at FREE FALL speed which means all the core structural support had to be destroyed. Thats what demolition does. This doesn't happen from a plane hitting the building. We all saw the planes, nobody is disputing that. No high rise in history has collapsed because of a fire and no high rise has ever collapsed in free fall in its own footprint without a controlled demolition until 9/11. Spin it how you want, watch the evidence on ae911truth.org. You may not agree, but at the very least its interesting. As TX Tiger said, the 7 story was a joke. They were interviewing people on camera and you could hear the explosions in the sum bitch behind them, even the firefighters described how they came straight down so fast.

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Dude what you are missing here is all three buildings fell at FREE FALL speed which means all the core structural support had to be destroyed. Thats what demolition does.

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I feel sorry for all those demolition companies who have wasted all that time and money on wiring detonations.
You know they have to feel silly in realizing after 9/11 that all this time all they had to do was set a building on fire and it would fall basically into its own footprint.

The NIST disagrees with you.