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re: SpaceX Starship Test Flight #7 | Booster Tower Catch GOOD!! Starship engines fail
Posted on 1/16/25 at 6:58 pm to nerd guy
Posted on 1/16/25 at 6:58 pm to nerd guy
A video from one of the flights. Could have been bad. The FAA is going to have fun with this one.
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:23 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Preliminary indication is that we had an oxygen/fuel leak in the cavity above the ship engine firewall that was large enough to build pressure in excess of the vent capacity.
Apart from obviously double-checking for leaks, we will add fire suppression to that volume and probably increase vent area. Nothing so far suggests pushing next launch past next month.
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:26 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Could have been bad.
What would have been bad? The ash is still likely swirling high over the Saharan Desert.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:31 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Great, now the woman astronaut is stuck in space for another 6 months. 
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:34 pm to Kcrad
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Great, now the woman astronaut is stuck in space for another 6 months.
He ride home has been parked at the ISS for a couple months. She has been training in it, and they have their custom fitted SpaceX suits as well. While rockets were launching, she preformed a spacewalk today to add upgrades to the ISS.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:38 pm to BottomlandBrew
I just checked the video with the arcing and "fire" is shown. The Starship was greater than 450,000 ft above ground level. Airlines don't routinely cruise above 40,000. The debris seen is burning on re-entry WTF up there. Not saying it all burned to ash, but I think contact with debris is unlikely.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:42 pm to Btrtigerfan
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The debris seen is burning on re-entry WTF up there. Not saying it all burned to ash, but I think contact with debris is unlikely.
Idk man I think it was def a possibility. But there’s really no way to fully safeguard this from happening. It’s not burning up from that altitude/velocity. It blew waaaay before orbital velocity and altitude
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:23 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Welp, at least Boeing can get theirs into orbit.
Can they get 'em (astronauts) back from orbit though?
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:29 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Well, that's one way to put it.
When you burn millions of taxpayer dollars up in the atmosphere, you make jokes about it.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:35 pm to Kcrad
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Great, now the woman astronaut is stuck in space for another 6 months.
Probably getting all the plowing she can handle.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:44 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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When you burn millions of taxpayer dollars up in the atmosphere, you make jokes about it.
None of it was funded by taxpayers. The RUD "joke" is a term that SpaceX coined themselves.
For taxpayer waste, please search NASA SLS Program.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:16 pm to Btrtigerfan
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For taxpayer waste, please search NASA SLS Program.
And for dessert, how 'bout some Artemis scheduling delays?
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:14 am to KosmoCramer
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I highly doubt this ship breaks up, let alone explodes.
I'll take quotes that didn't age well, for 500, Alex
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:19 am to Btrtigerfan
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I just checked the video with the arcing and "fire" is shown. The Starship was greater than 450,000 ft above ground level. Airlines don't routinely cruise above 40,000. The debris seen is burning on re-entry WTF up there. Not saying it all burned to ash, but I think contact with debris is unlikely.
Maybe you're right, but the debris in that airplane video looked way lower than 450k ft. Maybe it was perspective and it was a lot further away in the distance, thus making it higher in elevation than it actually looked.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:04 am to BottomlandBrew
Musk says that they can fix the issue with no delays. Going to suppress the area above the engine bulkhead. Also increase the vent size for the space.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:16 am to Deez Pecans
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I'll take quotes that didn't age well, for 500, Alex
I definitely was wrong. Very surprised at what happened, the streamers were stunned.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:52 am to KosmoCramer
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I definitely was wrong. Very surprised at what happened, the streamers were stunned.
I wonder if it was a RUD or a SpaceX initiated RUD.
It was better it broke up, than impact at that speed in one piece.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:59 am to DarthRebel
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:05 am to upgrayedd
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ALTITUDE MATTERS!
For Starship 7 Launch the FAA issued a NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) that specified the closed airspace area around the launch, and a broader warning area under Starship’s planned path. Starship 7’s rapid unscheduled disassembly occurred over the NOTAM’d WARNING area.
Why was this airspace not CLOSED to begin with?
EXPLOSION IN SPACE
Because SpaceX and the FAA calculate what Starship’s ALTITUDE will be along its path. Starship was in already in SPACE (~90 miles above the earth) when it exploded.
ROCKETS TRAVEL IN SPACE & AIRLINERS FLY IN THE ATMOSPHERE
Most airliners have a max service ceiling of 41,000 feet or ~7 miles above the earth. The explosion, while spectacular, posed no immediate danger to planes far, far below. It occurred more than 83 miles above them!
PLAN ACTIVATED
What happens next? SpaceX notifies the FAA of Starship 7´s rapid unscheduled disassembly, the FAA activates the warning area, & ATC follows normal procedures and vectors planes out of or around the Warning zone airspace—long before any debris could possibly fall to the altitude of a plane below. These calculations are done, and contingency plans made, in advance. The FAA doesn’t HOPE for the safety of the airliners, it KNOWS they will be safe, by DESIGN.
Anytime some airspace is restricted—TFRs can be issued for the President’s movement, the SuperBowl, Military airspace—it can create delays. Since this was NOTAM’d prior to the launch, airlines can choose to flight plan around the warning area, or carry extra contingency fuel to hold, or plan to divert if required. From a pilot’s perspective, this is the same type of contingency planning we do for weather, like thunderstorms. Today a few planes rerouted, a few held, a few experienced ground stops. To put it in context, a few DOZEN planes were effected today whereas the average Houston Thunderstorm, or a Presidential fundraiser typically create HUNDREDS of delays…
STUNNING VIDEOS!
The videos are attention getting and stunning. This video from the flight deck is my favorite! Lucky pilots, I’m so envious. But some are misinterpreting the videos (because people aren’t used to judging altitudes of objects, and to them it looks close). These space debris are MILES further away than they appear.
The FAA did its job. SpaceX followed protocol. SpaceX already identified the mechanical issue, and potential fix, allowing the cadence of launches to stay on track. @spacex @elonmusk
(Note: My apologies in advance for providing inconvenient facts that contradict false outrage).
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:06 am to upgrayedd
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Control room audio feed as Elon's H-1B army works to troubleshoot the problem.
That was dumb. SpaceX is pretty pasty white.
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