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Space Plane Startup Promises One-Hour Rides to Anywhere on Earth

Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:44 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:44 am
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Traveling in a space plane is a lot like traveling in a regular plane, except for the middle part. After reaching cruising altitude, the pilot hits the rocket boosters and blasts the aircraft to the edge of space at more than 9,000 mph, or about 12 times the speed of sound. The plane travels at that speed for about 15 minutes, then glides against the atmosphere to slow itself down, cruising back to Earth to land at a conventional airport.

Venus Aerospace Corp., a startup pursuing a hypersonic space plane, is aiming to use this technique to ferry people from Los Angeles to Tokyo in about an hour.


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Once the technology is worked out, Venus will still have to figure out the business, which consists of finding passengers willing to pay a premium to get halfway around the globe quicker. “This is for regular people,” Sassie Duggleby says. But past attempts at superfast flight, such as the Concorde, which traveled at twice the speed of conventional aircraft, and Aerion Supersonic, which promised travel between any two spots on Earth in three hours, didn’t last. Jesse Klempner, a partner at McKinsey & Co.’s aerospace and defense practice, says there’s a limit to people’s impatience: “It hasn’t been proven that the vast majority of humanity will pay a lot for an hour of time.”


You could make a day trip to anywhere in the world.

I say just bring back the Concorde at a reasonable rate

LINK
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:45 am to
How will this effect climate change?
Posted by Odysseus32
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:45 am to
Very interesting, but I'd imagine if people are going ahead with this there will be MANY deaths before we get to anywhere near safe.
Posted by rattlebucket
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:45 am to
This will be a hit but shares plummet after the first evaporation of a tourist at 9,000 mph
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:57 am to
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I say just bring back the Concorde at a reasonable rate



They are trying that. There's a number of startups and even United Airlines has gone all-in on "quiet supersonic" travel

I hope the space plane concept comes to fruition in my lifetime. It would be great to visit Tokyo or Hong Kong and not have to build 2 days of travel and 2 days of jet lag into the trip

This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 9:00 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:58 am to
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How will this effect climate change?



rockets exhaust pure water. The process of Hydrogen extraction is pretty dirty right now though there are ways to clean it up
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:59 am to
That would be pretty awesome to be honest.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:59 am to
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:00 am to
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I say just bring back the Concorde at a reasonable rate

you cant. Concorde just isnt efficient to be a reasonable price.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:01 am to
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Space Plane Startup Promises One-Hour Rides to Anywhere on Earth



Anyone watch "Man in the High Castle"?

I gotta admit the Nazi rocket powered airliners were a cool little detail in the show
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:03 am to
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you cant. Concorde just isnt efficient to be a reasonable price.



Concorde was built on 50yo technology. There are certainly ways to improve fuel efficiency especially if you deploy scramjet technology.

The issue is the sonic booms and the FAA's ban on them over the domestic US. Fix the boom and there will be an explosion of supersonic fleets
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:05 am to
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rockets exhaust pure water.


Depends on what you use as fuel. SpaceX rockets use kerosene
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:12 am to
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Fix the boom

Is that all? Maybe they can cover the plane in blankets?
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:12 am to
absloutly, Boom and Spikes jets should be way more efficient with the ramjet or scram jet hybrid engines.

this is a nice video about the resurgence. i watched it a few weeks ago. LINK

the sonic boom will issues, this video goes into it a bit.
Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:13 am to
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Fix the boom and there will be an explosion of supersonic fleets


Physics much?
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:15 am to
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Depends on what you use as fuel. SpaceX rockets use kerosene

the Merlin engine does, but the Raptor that Starship uses, uses Methane because they should be able to manufacture methane on Mars which would eliminate the need to carry fuel for the return trip.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:17 am to
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the sonic boom will issues, this video goes into it a bit.



The upcoming NASA X-59 might have the answers. Basically they are trying like everyone else to prevent the stacking of shockwaves

Nasa.gov

Posted by LSUsuperfresh
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:19 am to
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Is that all? Maybe they can cover the plane in blankets?



The boom isn't from the structure of the plane. It's from the sound wave collapsing upon itself. A forward moving sound wave is met by a rearward moving sound wave immediately after from the object that is ahead (because it is traveling at a rate faster than the speed of sound)
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 10:45 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:20 am to
This is what jeff bezos should be working on
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:20 am to
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Fix the boom

Is that all? Maybe they can cover the plane in blankets?


Keep following the thread and you'll start to see we are a decade, perhaps two away from solving the problem

I personally love that we live in a country that still invests in science. As much as we rail on politics, the US still spends more money than any other country on the development of new tech
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 9:21 am
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