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Software Engineers are Freaking Out

Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:43 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:43 pm
They never thought they would be obsolete. From the Free Press:

The Free Press

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Fifteen years ago, coding was supposed to be the future: As Marc Andreessen said that “software is eating the world,” nonprofits like Code.org popped up, raising $12 million from celebrities like Bill and Melinda Gates, and collaborating with the likes of Ashton Kutcher and Shakira, to teach underprivileged kids to program. In 2016, the Obama administration piloted a “Computer Science for All initiative, describing computer science as “a ‘new basic” skill necessary for economic opportunity and social mobility”; and, in the run-up to the 2020 election, Joe Biden went viral after he told a group of struggling miners that they should spend their days programming, rather than climbing inside a dirty hole....

And the people responded: Between 2009 and 2024, early-career computer science majors exploded from less than 70,000 to over 250,000; in the job market, the median base pay for developers grew by 24 percent between 2018 and 2024, until it was more than double the median salary in the U.S.

When Shawn started building software, it was because he thought—like most people—that it was a golden ticket. “I came from generational poverty,” he told me. His dad was a drug addict who disappeared for long stretches at a time, taking the rent money with him; his mother is disabled, and had a hard time finding work. When Shawn got into college, his biggest dream was financial stability, which is why he opted for computer science. That’s where the money is, he remembered thinking.

Now, the market has been flooded with AI agents like Anthropic’s Claude Code, OpenAI’s Codex, and Anysphere’s Cursor—all of which are capable of elite coding, and have wiped out the value of programmers’ skills. Today, the models are so good that anyone with an internet connection can be a “vibe coder”—just type in a prompt, and out comes a website, zero technical knowledge required.

Last November, when Amazon cut more than 14,000 jobs, software engineers in New York, California, New Jersey, and Washington were hit the hardest, accounting for nearly 40 percent of the layoffs across those states. In February, when Jack Dorsey’s company Block cut 40 percent of its workforce, he noted that “we've seen engineering work that would have taken weeks to complete be done by a small team in a fraction of the time.” Just last week, Oracle announced it too is laying off thousands, with software engineers significantly affected.

It’s gotten so bad that even the executives themselves are starting to mourn the loss of their craft: As OpenClaw founder Peter Steinberger recently put it, programming has become like knitting—something people do “because they like it, not because it makes any sense.” X’s Head of Product Nikita Bier posted, “We’re a few weeks away from where there will be no designers or engineers, but a third secret thing.

And the new technology was swallowing up all the entry-level positions for software engineers. Since ChatGPT’s public release, employment for software developers ages 22 to 25 has fallen by almost 20 percent; in 2025, the number of tech-job postings dropped by nearly one third compared to early 2020....


However, there might be hope.
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The fact is, if the AI takeover is already underway, computer science majors are best-placed to become experts in harnessing its power; there has never been a better time to learn the ropes of our brave new automated world than today.

For Daniel Bicalho, a 21-year-old computer science student, coding with a personal assistant is all he’s ever known. “My freshman year, AI could already do any coding assignment,” he told me. “It could knock out anything I got, by itself, literally in a minute or two.”

You’d think computer science professors would have noticed that the tools they’ve been teaching are no longer valuable. But Bicalho said they haven’t even budged. “The curriculum has still stayed the same,” he said. “I don’t think professors have found a way to work around AI yet.”

Now, with everyone on campus carrying around an automatic agent, and no one teaching them to harness it, Bicalho believes computer science students like him are complicit in de-skilling themselves. “You’ll find that a lot of these students don’t actually know how to code,” he said. “They’re just blindly writing AI slop.”

“There’s not a single employer that wants to hire them,” he explained, “because when it comes to discussing coding topics and fundamentals, they can’t actually say anything on the topic.”

Bicalho doesn’t reject the machine—in fact, as he told me, “I use AI for literally everything”—but he said he gets his competitive edge by acting as an editor: someone who knows that “their main purpose from now on is refining” their AI agent’s work—but knowing enough about coding to fix it if it goes wrong. After all, we need to preserve technical craftsmanship—the final masters of C++, fighting to keep human coding skills alive in case the machines suddenly blip out.

As Bicalho sees it, even if AI gets good enough to essentially carry out all the work we need doing without us intervening, the people in charge of it still need to know how it’s being done. Maybe the most worrying fact is that human beings are forgetting how the machines we invented work.


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Geaux Tigers
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:45 pm to
We went from "learn to code" to "learn a trade" real quickfast didn't we now...
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:47 pm to
AI is coming for a lot of white collar jobs.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60088 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:47 pm to
lol my oldest is a software engineer and is in no danger of losing her job

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Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11644 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:51 pm to
I wouldn’t think it’s a big deal for those already doing it. Now someone entering college I might would reconsider
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:52 pm to
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We went from "learn to code" to "learn a trade" real quickfast didn't we now...




What trade?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122052 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:53 pm to
Plumbers and electricians will be working on all of the spacious homes and commercial buildings paid for by UBI, duh
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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24617 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:54 pm to
They should learn to weld or drive a truck.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13573 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:54 pm to
My BIL is a software engineer in his early 50’s. He says H1B1 is a much larger threat than AI. He is made to take his first hour of the day to teach the H1B1s what to do for the day, and his last two hours of the day redoing what they did. According to him they are useless and his company would have done better hiring one competent American than the team of six stooges they hired.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
60088 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:55 pm to
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I wouldn’t think it’s a big deal for those already doing it. Now someone entering college I might would reconsider
she graduated last year in May - her whole 4 years the threat of AI loomed

It’ll be a while before people are replaced.
Posted by WavinWilly
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:57 pm to
Anybody in any sort of white collar job should be just as concerned as software engineers.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57958 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 3:58 pm to
Used Gemini several times this week. It can't do my job BUT...

I wanted a transcript of part of a city council meeting. Uploaded the video and damn if that transcript wasn't spot on.

Uploading 500+ page bills and asking for a summary. Summary was accurate. One bill was a big Christmas tree appropriation bill. Asked it to create me a list of the appropriations after I uploaded it. I still read the bill but it was spot on.

Used it to create charts and graphs.

All it is doing is making me more productive and giving me more tools to do my job.
Posted by Donkus
Shreveport
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:00 pm to
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He is made to take his first hour of the day to teach the H1B1s what to do for the day, and his last two hours of the day redoing what they did.


He's just an awful teacher.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77032 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:04 pm to
AI coding is the computer science version of “train your replacement”.

Just one more example of how we are absolutely fricking over younger generations trying to get out into the world.

This job market issue isn’t just with coding either. It is all fricked.

The younger generations are going to be stuck with service jobs, and those are getting replaced too.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20312 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:06 pm to
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We went from "learn to code" to "learn a trade" real quickfast didn't we now.


Time to get back to the farm life.

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The back-to-land movement of the 1930s is a direct historical precedent for the rural migration scenario emerging in AI displacement projections. Between 1930 and 1935, an estimated 1.2 million urban Americans moved to rural areas, many purchasing or homesteading small farms, not because farming was economically efficient relative to urban wages in good times, but because land represented a form of security that employment had catastrophically failed to provide.

The difference between the 1930s back-to-land movement and the one now taking shape is technological infrastructure. The 1930s migrant left electricity, running water, markets, medical care, and communication behind when they left the city. The displaced white collar worker of the 2030s leaves none of these things behind. They bring them in their pocket, on a satellite dish, and in a decade of technical knowledge that did not exist in 1935.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77032 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:07 pm to
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What trade?
Seriously.

No one seems to care about the long term ramifications of this from not just an economic standpoint, but also from a social one.

This is the kind of domino that would result in the younger generations going heavily socialist, voting to raid 401ks, etc.

They have been denied skin in the game. Why should they care about the system as it is?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78032 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:07 pm to
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Plumbers and electricians will be working on all of the spacious homes and commercial buildings paid for by UBI, duh



I forgot that once AI takes over all the billionaires companies will suddenly be good with giving their money away to citizens.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77032 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:10 pm to
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It’ll be a while before people are replaced
What do you mean by “a while”?

AI has advanced massively in a few years.

Who knows how well it will function in 2 years.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5630 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:10 pm to
AI and its mindless, empty-headed evangelists can go die.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15373 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:13 pm to
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He says H1B1 is a much larger threat than AI.


Cisco just laid off 6k. They have over 8k approved H1B application since 2021.

It's not just tech companies. JPMC (Chase) has had 16,192 approved H1Bs in the same period. Most of their tech is in Dallas.
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