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Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:28 am to LSUGrad9295
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I guess she had an axe to grind?
Maybe the white woman axed the wrong question and got axed back.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:29 am to Prisms
That's pretty antisocial behavior
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:29 am to FightinTigersDammit
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So, if you can't send a cop, and you can't send a social worker, who do you send?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:29 am to FightinTigersDammit
Double Post
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 8:30 am
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:34 am to mtntiger
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And they think more SWs are needed instead of police to handle people with violent tendencies. If we put more Sws in harm's way, more harm will come to them.
I considered applying to work with our local department as mental health personnel and spoke with staff before applying. They’re not sending SWs out on calls by themselves. They’re riding along with officers (who are also receiving mental health training) and assisting in identifying mental health issues.
Reading the OP, it sounds like she was an LCSW doing “in-home” mental health care with community health. That’s one of the most dangerous jobs in our profession, because you’re going into a home or to a site with someone who has severe enough mental health issues they can’t come to an office. And they’re likely to have had multiple hospitalizations.
And most community health corporations aren’t going to send you with someone else, it’s an individual job. I always thought it was abhorrent that they send folks out in these situations and don’t even utilize them in pairs. But a lot of that has to do with ever shrinking budgets in community health, who often get lopped in with other social service cuts.
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:37 am to Prisms
How did she get to the store to buy an axe if she’s a resident of a Psychiatric Hospital?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:41 am to BluegrassBelle
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That’s one of the most dangerous jobs in our profession,
Frankly, that job should not exist. But it's Vermont and whiteopia would never dream that someone would harm a social worker just trying to help people.
Police should be called to round people up that are a threat to themselves and others and take them to an inpatient psychiatric facility where there is security and they can be monitored and forced meds if they won't take them voluntarily. But I bet Vermont doesn't even have 72 hour hold like most other states so.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:42 am to Prisms
Solved her patient's problems 
I guess not
I guess not
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 8:45 am
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:43 am to Prisms
This looks like a great opportunity for the left to find his excuse!
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:49 am to Prisms
I know a lot of people who started in teaching, only to spend 2-3 years in the EBRPSS and either quit or take a pay cut and teach in private schools.
They saw what the reality is. These systems are complete fricking zoos with no protection for people with vocations to help. Social Work is absolutely NO DIFFERENT. Police Departments are NO DIFFERENT.
My heart goes out to this woman, and I only hope this serves as a guide for people to get out of dangerous industries that focuses on educating, policing, or helping animal communities in any way whatsoever. Don't be a cog in a wheel that COMPLETELY puts you in harms way for the benefit of trashy pieces of shite. It's not only thankless but it's dangerous, and the light bulb needs to turn on faster for these servants before they end up being a victim at the hands of some feral, untamed scum.
They saw what the reality is. These systems are complete fricking zoos with no protection for people with vocations to help. Social Work is absolutely NO DIFFERENT. Police Departments are NO DIFFERENT.
My heart goes out to this woman, and I only hope this serves as a guide for people to get out of dangerous industries that focuses on educating, policing, or helping animal communities in any way whatsoever. Don't be a cog in a wheel that COMPLETELY puts you in harms way for the benefit of trashy pieces of shite. It's not only thankless but it's dangerous, and the light bulb needs to turn on faster for these servants before they end up being a victim at the hands of some feral, untamed scum.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:50 am to USMCguy121
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Frankly, that job should not exist. But it's Vermont and whiteopia would never dream that someone would harm a social worker just trying to help people.
This job exists all over the country. It's not a liberal/conservative thing. It's actually utilized as a crime deterrent in some areas as the folks you're working with often have significant mental health issues (like schizophrenia) where they often will not come into an office but there is no long-term room for them in mental health facilities. That's why places like this shelter in the OP even exist.
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Police should be called to round people up that are a threat to themselves and others and take them to an inpatient psychiatric facility where there is security and they can be monitored and forced meds if they won't take them voluntarily. But I bet Vermont doesn't even have 72 hour hold like most other states so
Where do you suggest we put them? Because just a couple months ago I had to send a suicidal teenager to Bowling Green, Kentucky (3 hours away) because there were no beds locally. And our prisons are full too.
Therein lies the rub. We closed most mental health institutions in the 60s and 70s because of extreme abuse and neglect. So we literally have nowhere to put these people. And no one who has access to the funding (like congress) are willing to fund more institutions.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 8:51 am
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:50 am to USMCguy121
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As an aside, given that since she's in Vermont with a hyphenated name, 95% she was a "defund the police they're mean to people o culla' type.
Man, are you that nihilistic that you think because she voted a certain way she deserved to be brutally murdered with a fricking axe by a crazy person?
I swear some of you are mentally broken.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:00 am to JiminyCricket
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I know people give SW's a lot of crap because a ton of them are leftist in their approach to people with issues, but it honestly is a shame because I'm sure this lady actually did have a heart to help people.
Doesn't matter if she had a heart of gold or not. The idiot who thought it would be a good idea to send a SW to deal with these people without a cop on scene is the problem.
RIP Leah
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:02 am to Prisms
Honestly that's a horrible, disturbing thing to read about.
And as far as the latest headlines. I think it's insane that anyone is calling for fewer police officers. But I think we need more productive social workers (or perhaps more of them). There's a massive psych problem in this country.
And as far as the latest headlines. I think it's insane that anyone is calling for fewer police officers. But I think we need more productive social workers (or perhaps more of them). There's a massive psych problem in this country.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:02 am to CocomoLSU
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Man, are you that nihilistic that you think because she voted a certain way she deserved to be brutally murdered with a fricking axe by a crazy person?
If you vote for the party that campaigns on "defund the police" and who believes that all white people are inherently racist/evil while all black people are poor innocent victims and then something like this happens, it's hard to find sympathy.
They laugh when it happens to us, and the whole "be above the fray" has not worked out for the right.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:03 am to Giantkiller
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I know a lot of people who started in teaching, only to spend 2-3 years in the EBRPSS and either quit or take a pay cut and teach in private schools.
I think a lot of idealistic teachers that want to go into places like Orleans or EBRPSS (non magnet) probably haven't learned the lesson that it's impossible to help people who won't help themselves.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:04 am to FightinTigersDammit
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So, if you can't send a cop, and you can't send a social worker, who do you send?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:05 am to frequent flyer
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I think a lot of idealistic teachers that want to go into places like Orleans or EBRPSS (non magnet) probably haven't learned the lesson that it's impossible to help people who won't help themselves.
Yea. For the most part I feel for these people. They really do care and are trying to make the world a better place. But their politics are usually terrible. This is a sad situation.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:05 am to mtntiger
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And they think more SWs are needed instead of police to handle people with violent tendencies. If we put more Sws in harm's way, more harm will come to them.
Yup. Even social workers will admit they need police intervention with certain clients. My mom is a social worker. For her office, all they need to do is click a button on the computer and an officer will be there in minutes to ensure the safety of everyone.
My mom will tell you, once a client becomes very agitated/combative, there isn't much the social worker can do at that point. There isn't just a magic word they can say to make them calm down. Sometimes force is required, and that force cannot come from a 50/60 year old woman.
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