re: Sober for 4 months but....

Jesus never drank. I don't know why you need to.

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How so?

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Because the person who must weekend binge on anything is likely to continue on to a problem.

Anecdotally, I'm sure you have plenty of success stories but long term, there are very few people who consistently binge on the weekends for years and don't develop a problem. Listening to my brother, it was the Mondays that he had to work early that slowly led to his problem overwhelming him...

This conversation is about someone who acknowledges a problem so please keep that in mind...

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My son has been sober for nearly 2 years and 9 months now. He did the rehab thing and got sober. Did great for a year, and started slowly, but quickly returned to his heavy alcohol use. We lost him on the 26th of July, 2013 after a night of heavy drinking. He was 27. Enjoy your beer.

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cusoonkpd, I feel your pain and really do wish that the people who joke here about, "a few beers," after someone has gone off the deep end, don't eventually get their comeuppance, ignorance is bliss but encouragement is the devil...

Throw that shite away. Youll be running to the real thing in no time

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tigertrueAU

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I was under the impression the "lite" beer did actually have alcohol? I'd stay clear if you think you have a problem. JMO

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My issue with alcohol was that I would become the biggest self centered a-hole. AA meetings have helped me realize this.

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Stick around long enough and stop the NA beer idea, get a sponsor and get into the steps and Big Book. You'll come to realize that you are a self centered a-hole, but the alcohol was merely your answer to dealing with that among many other defects and the problems that ensued. And I say that about me as well. In other words, you weren't an a-hole because you drank. You drank because you are an a-hole.

It's a trip when the light bulb goes off and you start having moments of clarity like that. Do yourself a favor and give this thing a legitimate shot. You only think you know how good life can be. Not just for you, but those two little sets of eyes that look at you. And your wife as well.

Just start doing some coke. She'll forget all about the non alcoholic beer.

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My issue with alcohol was that I would become the biggest self centered a-hole.

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Meaning?

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know what I have to do. I guess I'm just struggling with the overall admittance of having a problem. I still have an alcoholic mind, I always will. I was thinking that maybe I could bull shite my way into convincing myself that there isn't an issue with NA beer. And no I've never physically harmed my wife. I work full time. We have two young children. My issue with alcohol was that I would become the biggest self centered a-hole. AA meetings have helped me realize this. 4 months sober seems like a long time but in reality when you've been drinking for 20 years it's nothing. I knew what I had to do when I began this thread. I guess I just needed some help seeing it. Going to a meeting tomorrow.

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Reading this, I think you may have meant to respond to me because of my initial post on the subject. Please don't beat yourself up over because it sounds like you understand the big picture. Just give it a little longer before you hold having an O'Doul's against your wife or your kids. If this went as far as you're hinting, you will have a much better life by abstaining a little longer and being as strong as you want the rest of your family to be. Be the man you're asking your family to see and if you really think it won't hurt them and you won't hold it against them then, by all means, have an O'douls.

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We lost him on the 26th of July, 2013 after a night of heavy drinking. He was 27.

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Recently lost a friend I hadn't spoken to in some time around the same age. We both used to grab drinks after work regularly. We were fresh out of school, on the up and up with our companies, but still liked to go out and get plastered. We were in our 20s, no big deal. Well I moved to a different office and didn't hang out with him much anymore. I got married and slowed down like normal. I had heard through friends that he was spiraling. Then I heard he was fired from his job (this after taking a leave for rehab). Guy came from a great family with tons of money and he was smart. But he thought he was smarter than his disease. They found him dead in his kitchen.

I don't understand what it's like to be addicted, but knowing that this guy could get to a pint where he killed himself with alcohol scares the crap out of me. I maybe can't comment since I don't know how it feels, but is it worth the taste of beer to play games with your health and your family?