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re: So with the Hospitalizations Plummeting and 70+ Group Vaccinated, JBE’s Next Move?

Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:06 am to
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8182 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:06 am to
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Ummmmmm.. no it doesn't.
Ummmmm. Yes it does


How about a quote directly from the Mayo Clinic -

"A vaccine might prevent you from getting COVID-19 or prevent you from becoming seriously ill from COVID-19 if you get the COVID-19 virus." source

Notice the keyword MIGHT, not WILL, SHOULD, or in 90% of tests.. simply the word MIGHT.

Even Johns Hopkins can only regurgitate what the pharma companies are say, because there just is no real data. "Both Pfizer and Moderna report that their vaccines show approximately 95% efficacy at preventing both mild and severe symptoms of COVID-19" source

Then we can talk about the expected length of time the 'vaccine' is expected to be effective... even the makers have no clue, Moderna's last estimate was MAYBE 4 - 24 months.

I know very well how vaccines work, I also know very well how gov't and 'for profit companies' (I may be repeating myself here) work.

Mis-sinfomration goes both ways.... I research both sides and form my own opinion.

Myself and my extended family have all discussed it (3 of which are practicing MD's and 1 RN), about half of the families (as well as half of the medical folks) will leave unused doses on the table for others. The other half have or want to take the vaccine.


Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23051 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:06 am to
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You need to stop thinking in absolutes.


I’m not. The powers that be in some places are. I’m thinking the Floridians are thankful DeSantis used common sense.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73815 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:06 am to
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I was in the same room as someone for 10-15 minutes who tested positive later that day. I was told that it was a 'low risk' scenario and to be at work the next day


Well, our safety guy is jon bell jr. he LOVES the attention and he loves being in control. so, he's gone full retard with the situation.
Posted by GPLebl
Member since Dec 2020
203 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:07 am to
Gotta watch out for the Black History Month surge too.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
11651 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:07 am to
What time does the Czar speak to the peasants today? Assuming it’s today since his last royal proclamation expires tomorrow
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108573 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:07 am to
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Look we have been told asymptomatic people are just as concerning as symptomatic as far as spread
Not sure who you listen to or what you read, but this is not at all the info I have taken in
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62095 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:08 am to
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Drives me crazy as well. There is a difference between isolation because you have COViD and quarantine because you were potentially exposed to COVID. We have been dealing with this for how long now? It’s not that hard to learn the difference folks


What's the difference?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:10 am to
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I was in the same room as someone for 10-15 minutes who tested positive later that day. I was told that it was a 'low risk' scenario and to be at work the next day.



I do staff exposure work ups daily.

Even if exposed...you come to work. We all are required to wear masks at all times and socially distance for all meals and breaks. You work and if you get sick...go home immediately or stay home and set up testing with employee health. Employee health will let you know when you can return to work.

You are considering exposed if:

Positive person had their mask off and you were within 6 feet of that person without a mask on yourself (ex: eating together) for 15 minutes at least

If you were never within 6 feet of positive person without a mask on...no exposure

However it is expected that you are monitoring your symptoms and taking temps daily.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27130 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:10 am to
The only thing that will make these ordinances go away is mass civil disobedience. They've moved the goalposts so many times on this thing and they aren't going to stop now.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103536 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:11 am to
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However it is expected that you are monitoring your symptoms and taking temps daily.


We've been doing that shite since March.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73815 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:12 am to
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We've been doing that shite since March


yep

jon bell jr stands at the door and asks a bunch of questions then takes your temperature every morning.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62095 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:13 am to
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Look we have been told asymptomatic people are just as concerning as symptomatic as far as spread


Look, I'm as much of an opponent of the way we've handled this situation as anyone.

But, you just aren't being logical. The decisions about asymptomatic spread were decisions made at the macro level because it, combined with everything else, theoretically kept the transmission rates high enough to prevent the control of the spread.

Plus, you are conflating asymptomatic spread with pre-symptomatic spread which may not be identical. And, you are equating asymptomatic spread with whatever level of infection a typical vaccinated person will get. None of those are guaranteed to be the same.

Assuming the vaccine doesn't do any damage on its own, it's going to be HUGELY impactful in getting past this. You are whining about the things we've done in the past to the point where you are now arguing against the single biggest thing that will have an impact.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:13 am to
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What's the difference?


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Isolation separates sick people with a contagious disease from people who are not sick.

Quarantine separates and restricts the movement of people who were exposed to a contagious disease to see if they become sick.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103536 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:14 am to
Oh, we are supposed to do it at home before coming in... we obviously do something similar to that for hospital visitors, but the thermometers suck and the questions are pointless. If anyone is going to be honest about being exposed they aren't going to be showing up anyway.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
11651 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:14 am to
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The only thing that will make these ordinances go away is mass civil disobedience.


This weekend in Nola will be a good litmus test to see if the people will do that or if they have been properly submitted by Daddy Govt
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:16 am to
Yeah we still have people come to work sick


I wish HR would man up and start enforcing disciplinary action for those that knowingly show up at work with a fever (have had that happen and they of course had COVID and hid they were sick)
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22292 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:16 am to
The Sloth won’t be giving up his power trip anytime soon.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73815 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:18 am to
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Oh, we are supposed to do it at home before coming in.


yeah this guy is not going to trust you to monitor yourself. he even has the karen squad roaming the hall just waiting to spot someone leaving their office with out a mask. The men's room is 20 feet from my door but, if i dare to make that trip with out a mask!

he has gone as far as recommending terminations.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103536 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:18 am to
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he has gone as far as recommending terminations.


Sounds like he needs a shite on his baker's rack.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23051 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:19 am to
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Not sure who you listen to or what you read, but this is not at all the info I have taken in


Sorry. We have been told by POLITICIANS that a positive test is a positive test. The restrictions don’t differentiate between symptomatic and asymptomatic.
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