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re: So with the Hospitalizations Plummeting and 70+ Group Vaccinated, JBE’s Next Move?

Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:40 am to
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:40 am to
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So, if you never get sick, and your viral load stays so low it doesn’t show up on a test and prevents you from spreading it, it keeps you from “catching” the virus in the sense of the word we have always used it as


So asymptomatic people don’t spread the virus? We have been told otherwise for almost a year.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48331 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:42 am to
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So it’s your opinion


Nothing I stated was an opinion. It’s all based on data and scientific principle.


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and what I stated was the actual guidance.


The CDC guidance is based on the initial trials that didn’t study transmission. They aren’t changing guidelines until results are shown. That is a far cry from “vaccines don’t reduce transmission.”

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Could that also be related to people with minor symptoms to no symptoms are much less likely to spread the illness?


So lower viral loads reduce transmission ... quite literally what I already said.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22392 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:44 am to
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So lower viral loads reduce transmission ... quite literally what I already said.


We have been told for a year that was not true that asymptomatic people spread the virus. That is the whole reason the teachers unions are refusing to come to work since kids rarely show any symptoms.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 7:45 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:44 am to
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So, if you never get sick, and your viral load stays so low it doesn’t show up on a test and prevents you from spreading it, it keeps you from “catching” the virus in the sense of the word we have always used it as



If it doesn't show up on a test how would you know if you have it?

Also...how can people still testing positive after their 14 day quarantine be allowed back into society because they are being told they are "just shedding dead cells...nothing to worry about"
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95947 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:45 am to
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If it doesn't show up on a test how would you know if you have it?

Exactly

Hence why the vaccine absolutely does help prevent you from “catching” the virus
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 7:46 am
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:46 am to
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JBE’s Next Move?


Easter is canceled.

Spring Break is canceled.

Memorial Day is canceled.

4th of July is canceled.
Posted by mr. penguin
Member since Jun 2009
7467 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:47 am to
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Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3171 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:47 am to
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Also...how can people still testing positive after their 14 day quarantine be allowed back into society because they are being told they are "just shedding dead cells...nothing to worry about"




Since my company still requires a negative test to return to work, I had a co-worker tested positive once a week for six weeks straight and never had single symptom.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10516 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:47 am to
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You do realize that you can still catch COVID even if you're vaccinated and the vaccine only last for at least 4 months

Facts


This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 8:36 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48331 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:48 am to
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True or false.....


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A vaccinated person is at a much lower risk of catching COVID 19

A vaccinated person is much less likely to spread COVID 19 to a non vaccinated person

A non vaccinated person can spread COVID 19 to a vaccinated person but the risk of actual contraction is very low

A vaccinated person is less at risk for catching and spreading COVID 19


Nothing in the world is binary. This simplistic line of thinking is absurd. No vaccine has a 100% effective rate, yet we have eradicated deadly viruses nonetheless.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:49 am to
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Exactly

Hence why the vaccine absolutely does help prevent you from “catching” the virus


I say we just assume everyone either already had the virus, currently has the virus, will eventually get the virus.....whether they are/were symptomatic or asymptomatic

Is that fair to say?
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22392 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:49 am to
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Exactly

Hence why the vaccine absolutely does help prevent you from “catching” the virus



I’m pretty sure it will still show up just at lower values hence why the CDC mysteriously lowered the positive test criteria value just recently. Which begs the question of how many “positive” cases would’ve been negative using the new criteria.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:51 am to
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No one will test positive for co



Where does it say that?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:51 am to
It says that you won't test positive for COVID because of the vaccine... uh, duh.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68951 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:52 am to
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So lower viral loads reduce transmission ... quite literally what I already said.


Lol the left said there is no such thing as viral load.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:52 am to
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It says that you won't test positive for COVID because of the vaccine... uh, duh.



I saw that...but that's not the argument here
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 7:54 am
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129045 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:53 am to
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Since my company still requires a negative test to return to work,


Well that’s just stupid on your company cause it’s well known by now that you can potentially test positive for 90 days after you initially had it. Doesn’t mean you are infectious that whole time. CDC has said for a very long time now retesting until negative is not recommended. Isolate for 10 days after start of symptoms (or positive test if no symptoms) with at least 24-72 hours free of fever and no worsening symptoms. If you have certain medical conditions or required a hospital stay with oxygen ...extend that isolation to 20 days after start of symptoms with 24-72 hours free of fever and no worsening symptoms. No need to retest.

The test can only detect the presence of the virus. It can’t differentiate between live (infectious) virus and dead virus (non infectious) that you are still shedding.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 7:55 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48331 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:54 am to
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We have been told for a year that was not true that asymptomatic people spread the virus


Asymptotic patients spread at a much much lower rate than symptomatic patients. Again, it’s not binary
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:55 am to
It's called covering your arse.

Can you imaging the uproar is someone testing positive (even if they weren't contagious) came into the office and then other people tested positive?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56498 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:55 am to
He should go on TV and blow his own brains out. That's the kind of bold leadership our state needs.
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