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re: So this whole thing going on in Hong Kong is because of a guy that murdered his girlfriend

Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:34 am to
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:34 am to
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The freedom to murder someone and flee to your country where nothing can or will be done about it? yes.


Oh, eScott...
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:42 am to
I'll see myself out.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8972 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:48 am to
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The Great Leap Forward, also known as Chairman Mao laughing at Hitler’s murder stats


shite, Hitler?? Way worse.

Mao told Stalin “Hold my Tsingtao”
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:49 am to
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Understandably the people of Hong Kong (HK has been basically separate from China and is completely democratic and capitalistic) are quite sceptical
Hong Kong isn't completely Democratic & has never been Democratic. For nearly 100 years Every single Hong Kong City Governor was appointed by the British Crown & the Governor completely appointed the City's governing Council members( mostly British expats).



Only recently ,( a few years before the 1997 handover) have a certain small percentage of lawmakers been directly elected to serve alongside the usual Government appointees.HK never had a democracy under the UK & probably won't be getting one anytime soon under China , unfortunately.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 9:53 am
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
4006 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:17 am to
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shite, Hitler?? Way worse.

Mao told Stalin “Hold my Tsingtao”



I went the hitler route, because he's more well known to the uniformed.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:07 pm to
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I went the hitler route, because he's more well known to the uniformed.



I wonder how many millions the British Empire was responsible for killing( directly or indirectly)?

The Bengal Famine & millions of other British India deaths/ famines , slave trade , Boer Concentration / Death Camps in S. Africa,etc....... "


And stop telling anyone about the " democracy" of HK under British rule which is demonstrably false.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
7357 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:14 pm to
Do you really believe this many people would riot and protest based on their support of fleeing murder charges? That's a shallow belief.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:14 pm to
The long and short of it is that they are trying to save democracy in Hong Kong, which is an uphill battle ever since the UK handed it back to China.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:18 pm to
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The long and short of it is that they are trying to save democracy in Hong Kong


There is no democracy in Hong Kong & hasn't been democracy in HK over the previous 100 years under British rule.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45520 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:20 pm to
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I would have thought provisions would have been made for extreme cases like this. Sorry for my ignorance, I figured posting here would give me a head start on reading up on it.


Congratulations comrade. You have been propoganded. Welcome to the party.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Do you really believe this many people would riot and protest based on their support of fleeing murder charges? That's a shallow belief.


No, that's not what I was saying at all. I just never realized what kicked it off.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:32 pm to
I think it is more complex than this. While this case might have intensified things, it really comes down to the people of Hong Kong not wanting China to interfere with their democracy.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:37 pm to
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Hong Kong not wanting China to interfere with their democracy.


There is no democracy in HK.
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:09 pm to
While there may not have been democracy prior, it is undeniable that they have enjoyed many of the same freedoms that we in America do due to British law, which is something they now face possibly losing.

Additionally, they do have something closeish to a democracy right now due to not being under British control since 97. Whether it is exactly a democracy or not aside, it is far better than the nonsense the Chinese would enforce upon them.

Edit: my latter statement may be a little off regarding the current state of their government.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 9:14 pm
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:16 pm to
The leaflet is probably a production of the Chinese Communists.

That said, I've never been able to muster much sympathy for the people protesting the People's Republic.

What exactly do they advocate instead? Buddhist Feudalism? Islam?

It's one of those two things for about 90% of them, and for the rest the whole thing is basically just "Daddy called me fat and I'm mad."

None of them are calling for a society anything like the one I live in.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 9:19 pm
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