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re: So now that playing football is pretty much guaranteed CTE...

Posted on 8/8/17 at 8:49 am to
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 8:49 am to
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Out of the hundreds of thousands of deceased football players they only found CTE in 150 out of 200 brains





So out of hundreds of thousands of former players, they autopsied 200 former players and found CTE in 75% of them is what you're saying.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 8:53 am to
They weren't random brains.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 8:54 am to
"Heads Up" training is mandatory for youth football where I coach, but it is useless. It's more for the liability of the school involved. You can teach a kid the proper technique until you are blue in the face, but when the action is live, they revert to head down battering ram type tackling.

I will also point out that I see horrendous overall technique in college and even in the NFL. Horrible! It seems more and more people from youth to the NFL are going for the open field "defensive back hits" where you hit them from their thigh pads down and take out the legs.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 8:55 am
Posted by Bigwhite5154
louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
78 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 8:55 am to
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AwesomeSauce


Absolutely, the mentality of coaches have changed and i find that at pretty much all levels of football injuries especially head injuries are taken way more seriously now. but once again the friendships i made and lessons i learned and the other opportunities that presented themselves are the reasons i could never deny that to my kid.
Posted by Bigwhite5154
louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
78 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:03 am to
that's just bad coaching if a kid refuses to play safely and will not use proper technique he shouldn't be on the field. in regards to pros and college the issue of "defensive back hits" is not a technique problem that's a mentality issue. they are choosing to hit high on the ball carrier.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:04 am to
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the friendships i made and lessons i learned and the other opportunities that presented themselves are the reasons i could never deny that to my kid.



Couldn't agree more. I actually have a group chat going right now with the majority of the front 7 I played with trying to workout the logistics of what game most of us can attend. One of my favorite weekends of the year getting to see guys who were such an integral part of my life from 17-21. We aren't that old yet, but I think every year our old 40 times drop a tenth and we all squatted and benched 5 lbs more, by the time we are in our 50's we'll all have ran 4.19's, squatted 800, and had 50" verticals.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:06 am to
i'd let my kid decide

unless his decision was to play football
Posted by Bigwhite5154
louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
78 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:09 am to
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We aren't that old yet, but I think every year our old 40 times drop a tenth and we all squatted and benched 5 lbs more, by the time we are in our 50's we'll all have ran 4.19's, squatted 800, and had 50" verticals.



No doubt! i was a linemen so the 40 times arent discussed, but the benches and squats seem to get higher each time we all meet up and someone ends up in a one on one if alcohol is present lol. goodtimes for sure.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:13 am to
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So now that playing football is pretty much guaranteed CTE..


I really don't see why this is some huge shock to people.

Common sense should've told you if you're in a sport where you hit your head against someone else's head for 3 hours multiple times in a 3 month span for 10 years or so, you might have some long term negative effects from it. We needed CTE to be defined to know that?
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11633 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:16 am to
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i was a linemen so the 40 times arent discussed,


I was a 4-3 End that ended up a 3-4 Viper after a coaching change, so it's a point for a few of us. When we all get together and get a couple of fifths in and our run stuffers are talking about their 450# bench those of us who never broke into the 400#s have to have something to brag about.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 9:17 am
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:18 am to
True, to the .001% that make it.


What about those that play through college, get no money, no NFL job, but plenty of brain damage?

This is a FAR MORE likely scenario then making it and having the money and fame.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21781 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:21 am to
Mine played tackle football from 5 till he graduated.

I would also probably put him in flag football until he was 5th or 6th grade
Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
3199 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:23 am to
I plan on putting my kid in gymnastics so he can learn body awareness and discipline until his is big/old enough to play football. Will also do baseball before football too, but I want him to at least try out sports and have him decide which one he likes best.
Posted by Bigwhite5154
louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
78 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:25 am to
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their 450# bench


HAHA the big guys gotta brag about something
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:29 am to
All I know is that when I played football I came home with headaches every day. I loved it so much I didn't mind. When I got to high school I decided I would focus on baseball. As a catcher I had more bells rung than anytime during football but I didn't have the headaches. The truth is the human body is complex and we are just not learning about the damage. Also, position plays a factor.

I played LB in football and had some hard impacts.
I played catcher in baseball and had some hard impacts.

Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:35 am to
You people going to keep your kids at home in a padded room 24/7 until the age of 18?

You can get injured playing any sport. Hell you can get injured playing on the god damn monkey bars. You gonna let them ride a scooter? Rollerblade? Ride their bike? Gonna be in full pads with a helmet on every single time no matter what right?

Certainly won't be allowing them to drive at 16 I assume? Super frickin dangerous if you look at the statistics.

Meanwhile let's put them on what is essentially speed while their brains are still developing because by god you have to sit still and learn for 8 hours a day. Adderall good football bad amirite?

anyway - I'll be letting my kids be kids without living in constant fear of everything and hopefully one day can watch them on the gridiron as a proud papa if they choose to play and enjoy it.

This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 9:44 am
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
22081 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:37 am to
YES. soccer can haz all your kids now.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21781 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:57 am to
I let my kids be kids but I didn't put them in unnecessary danger. No point in playing youth football at such a young age
Posted by Flavius Belisarius
Member since Feb 2016
990 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:24 am to
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You can get injured playing any sport. Hell you can get injured playing on the god damn monkey bars. You gonna let them ride a scooter? Rollerblade? Ride their bike?


Possibility vs high probability/certainty

quote:

Gonna be in full pads with a helmet on every single time no matter what right?


CTE occurs despite wearing protective gear
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49099 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:37 am to
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those of you with sons....will you be letting him play or not?


They started last week. We're excited. This is his 6th season. His first in Junior High as a 7th grader.


I played 10 years of football and was somewhere between Uncle Rico and Al Bundy talent-wise. Anyhoo, I capped it off with the 94 LSU Spring Game where I got concussed from Kris Perret on a brutal decleating blindside just before getting the sack.

Then I found rugby for the next 13 years capped off playing US Super League against the best mens teams in the country(quite a few Men's National team players). Nuff said.

To each their own but CTE isn't stopping me from letting my son play football, rugby or any contact sport he wants.

As for 20 years later, I work in a very technical IT field and no mental health issues other than being a perverted deviant.


This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 10:41 am
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