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re: So im more convinced than ever that the govt allowed 9/11 to happen

Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:58 pm to
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Fuse buses. Not fuses. Breaker technology was used by then too, not old time fuses.


Exactly. BB18 fuse buses are only used to rig explosives and have no other application than demolition. It's science.
Posted by mdomingue
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:43 pm to
It's amazing how people can see the same event and come to very different conclusions about the root cause.

Both see three buildings collapse in on themselves perfectly on their own footprints.

One group of people who don't follow the government storyline call them controlled demolitions because they look and act like controlled demolitions.

The other group (the majority) follow the government storyline and believe the building collapsed perfectly in on themselves due to buring jet fuel, office furniture and office paper weakening steel beams.

Mind you, and according to the NIST report this is the first and only time in the history of steel framed buildings that a steel framed building has collapsed on itself within its own footprint due to fire. Not only was it ONE building in the history of the world for steel framed buildings to collapse on its own footprint due to fire but it was THREE steel framed building on the same day.

Quite frankly, that's incredible. I just can't believe jet fuel, office furniture and paper can melt steel beams. In fact the architects use a factor of safety to withstand a building fire. That is, design the beam size such they remain structurally sound under building fire temperatures.

You will never get me to believe that jet fuel, office furniture and paper can create a hot enough fire under ambient conditions to weaken steel beams to the point where they fail simultaneously and caused the building to free fall collapse.

Sorry, I can't believe that. It's just goes against all the science and engeinnering I've learned and practice my entire life.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:53 pm to
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Quite frankly, that's incredible. I just can't believe jet fuel, office furniture and paper can melt steel beams. In fact the architects use a factor of safety to withstand a building fire. That is, design the beam size such they remain structurally sound under building fire temperatures.

I know, right?

Everyone knows that there have been countless building fires where commercial airliners slammed into the building and/or thousands of gallons of fuel that were allowed to burn unimpeded for several hours that can be used as baseline studies. Very common scenario.


There is absolutely no difference between this fire





and this fire


This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 9:58 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:58 pm to
What a retard you are. And an engineer supposedly? GTFO
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:03 pm to

Even if your theory is slightly true (which it's not even remotely true) it doesn't explain WTC 7 which was not hit by a plane and no jet fuel was involved.

FWIW, there have been dozens of steel frame buildings that have had major fires and none have collapsed and certainly there were no simultaneous beam failures. In fact, those buildings were simply gutted and re-built out because the structural integrity of the steel remained even after the fires.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:04 pm to
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three buildings collapse in on themselves perfectly on their own footprints.
Didn't happen.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:06 pm to
I know. That's why I said it's super easy to blow 85 beams with hundreds of charges without anyone ever knowing.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:14 pm to
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You will never get me to believe
That's because you are a bit of a political loon.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:16 pm to
You are asking me how it was pulled off and the logistics behind that. I don't know.

All I can say is jet fuel and office fire did not bring those buildings down.

Now, I can speculate the logistics of pulling the operation off. An easy way would be to lease out a few floors in each building. Hmm, wonder who leased much of the WTC buildings?

Or I could go by the stories of CIA operatives that participated in the operation and have spilled the beans that are totally dismissed by government true believers.

Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:18 pm to
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What a retard you are. And an engineer supposedly?


Yeah look at thes retards. Stupid mother frickers.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:19 pm to
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Or I could go by the stories of CIA operatives that participated in the operation and have spilled the beans that are totally dismissed by government true believers

Are you referring to that one guy who made a dubious deathbed confession a few months ago or is there other more credible testimony?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:20 pm to
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You are asking me how it was pulled off and the logistics behind that. I don't know.

That's because you know it requires an unrealistic logistical effort and discounts your theory.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:22 pm to
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Yeah look at thes retards
ok...What now after I point and laugh?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:25 pm to
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GumboPot

I feel sorry for you


Also sorry for your father for the embarrassment you must be. You don't actually spread these views in public do you other than an anonymous message board?
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:28 pm to
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TigersHuskers

You know you've pretty much hit rock bottom when gokdennugget is agreeing with you.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:29 pm to
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That's because you know it requires an unrealistic logistical effort and discounts your theory.



Dude, you want to take down a building you rent it out. Several federal agencies were leasing several floors of all the WTC buildings prior to 911.

You think our IC is really that dumb that they can't pull off this kind of operation?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:31 pm to
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ok...What now after I point and laugh?




Keep believing the government line.

Jeb loves you for it.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:31 pm to
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Or I could go by the stories of CIA operatives that participated in the operation and have spilled the beans that are totally dismissed by government true believers. 




I'm not even going to ask because I can read this sentence and know that you're one of those idiots that thinks everything you read on the internet is true.
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