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Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:58 pm to GumboPot
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Fuse buses. Not fuses. Breaker technology was used by then too, not old time fuses.
Exactly. BB18 fuse buses are only used to rig explosives and have no other application than demolition. It's science.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:43 pm to upgrayedd
It's amazing how people can see the same event and come to very different conclusions about the root cause.
Both see three buildings collapse in on themselves perfectly on their own footprints.
One group of people who don't follow the government storyline call them controlled demolitions because they look and act like controlled demolitions.
The other group (the majority) follow the government storyline and believe the building collapsed perfectly in on themselves due to buring jet fuel, office furniture and office paper weakening steel beams.
Mind you, and according to the NIST report this is the first and only time in the history of steel framed buildings that a steel framed building has collapsed on itself within its own footprint due to fire. Not only was it ONE building in the history of the world for steel framed buildings to collapse on its own footprint due to fire but it was THREE steel framed building on the same day.
Quite frankly, that's incredible. I just can't believe jet fuel, office furniture and paper can melt steel beams. In fact the architects use a factor of safety to withstand a building fire. That is, design the beam size such they remain structurally sound under building fire temperatures.
You will never get me to believe that jet fuel, office furniture and paper can create a hot enough fire under ambient conditions to weaken steel beams to the point where they fail simultaneously and caused the building to free fall collapse.
Sorry, I can't believe that. It's just goes against all the science and engeinnering I've learned and practice my entire life.
Both see three buildings collapse in on themselves perfectly on their own footprints.
One group of people who don't follow the government storyline call them controlled demolitions because they look and act like controlled demolitions.
The other group (the majority) follow the government storyline and believe the building collapsed perfectly in on themselves due to buring jet fuel, office furniture and office paper weakening steel beams.
Mind you, and according to the NIST report this is the first and only time in the history of steel framed buildings that a steel framed building has collapsed on itself within its own footprint due to fire. Not only was it ONE building in the history of the world for steel framed buildings to collapse on its own footprint due to fire but it was THREE steel framed building on the same day.
Quite frankly, that's incredible. I just can't believe jet fuel, office furniture and paper can melt steel beams. In fact the architects use a factor of safety to withstand a building fire. That is, design the beam size such they remain structurally sound under building fire temperatures.
You will never get me to believe that jet fuel, office furniture and paper can create a hot enough fire under ambient conditions to weaken steel beams to the point where they fail simultaneously and caused the building to free fall collapse.
Sorry, I can't believe that. It's just goes against all the science and engeinnering I've learned and practice my entire life.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:53 pm to GumboPot
quote:
Quite frankly, that's incredible. I just can't believe jet fuel, office furniture and paper can melt steel beams. In fact the architects use a factor of safety to withstand a building fire. That is, design the beam size such they remain structurally sound under building fire temperatures.
I know, right?
Everyone knows that there have been countless building fires where commercial airliners slammed into the building and/or thousands of gallons of fuel that were allowed to burn unimpeded for several hours that can be used as baseline studies. Very common scenario.
There is absolutely no difference between this fire
and this fire

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Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:58 pm to GumboPot
What a retard you are. And an engineer supposedly?
GTFO
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:03 pm to upgrayedd
Even if your theory is slightly true (which it's not even remotely true) it doesn't explain WTC 7 which was not hit by a plane and no jet fuel was involved.
FWIW, there have been dozens of steel frame buildings that have had major fires and none have collapsed and certainly there were no simultaneous beam failures. In fact, those buildings were simply gutted and re-built out because the structural integrity of the steel remained even after the fires.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:04 pm to GumboPot
quote:Didn't happen.
three buildings collapse in on themselves perfectly on their own footprints.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:06 pm to GumboPot
I know. That's why I said it's super easy to blow 85 beams with hundreds of charges without anyone ever knowing.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:14 pm to GumboPot
quote:That's because you are a bit of a political loon.
You will never get me to believe
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:16 pm to upgrayedd
You are asking me how it was pulled off and the logistics behind that. I don't know.
All I can say is jet fuel and office fire did not bring those buildings down.
Now, I can speculate the logistics of pulling the operation off. An easy way would be to lease out a few floors in each building. Hmm, wonder who leased much of the WTC buildings?
Or I could go by the stories of CIA operatives that participated in the operation and have spilled the beans that are totally dismissed by government true believers.
All I can say is jet fuel and office fire did not bring those buildings down.
Now, I can speculate the logistics of pulling the operation off. An easy way would be to lease out a few floors in each building. Hmm, wonder who leased much of the WTC buildings?
Or I could go by the stories of CIA operatives that participated in the operation and have spilled the beans that are totally dismissed by government true believers.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:18 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
What a retard you are. And an engineer supposedly?
Yeah look at thes retards. Stupid mother frickers.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:19 pm to GumboPot
quote:
Or I could go by the stories of CIA operatives that participated in the operation and have spilled the beans that are totally dismissed by government true believers
Are you referring to that one guy who made a dubious deathbed confession a few months ago or is there other more credible testimony?
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:20 pm to GumboPot
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You are asking me how it was pulled off and the logistics behind that. I don't know.
That's because you know it requires an unrealistic logistical effort and discounts your theory.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:22 pm to GumboPot
quote:ok...What now after I point and laugh?
Yeah look at thes retards
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:25 pm to GumboPot
quote:I feel sorry for you
GumboPot
Also sorry for your father for the embarrassment you must be. You don't actually spread these views in public do you other than an anonymous message board?
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:28 pm to TigersHuskers
quote:You know you've pretty much hit rock bottom when gokdennugget is agreeing with you.
TigersHuskers
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:29 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
That's because you know it requires an unrealistic logistical effort and discounts your theory.
Dude, you want to take down a building you rent it out. Several federal agencies were leasing several floors of all the WTC buildings prior to 911.
You think our IC is really that dumb that they can't pull off this kind of operation?
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:31 pm to PearlJam
quote:
ok...What now after I point and laugh?
Keep believing the government line.
Jeb loves you for it.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:31 pm to GumboPot
quote:
Or I could go by the stories of CIA operatives that participated in the operation and have spilled the beans that are totally dismissed by government true believers.
I'm not even going to ask because I can read this sentence and know that you're one of those idiots that thinks everything you read on the internet is true.
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