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re: So im more convinced than ever that the govt allowed 9/11 to happen

Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:06 pm to
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Two weeks before 9/11 I went to the swimming pool at the national guard and the guy at the guard shack grilled me about what we were doing there. They had never done that before. He told me they were on alert for suspicious activity.

I have no doubt they knew something was about to be attempted but I don't think they knew exactly.

Well, I was in the active army at that time and they didn't share any of their concerns with us.
Posted by Devil_doge
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:08 pm to
I just clicked this thread so I could downvote you. I don't even care about what else you had to say other than the title.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:08 pm to
I'm curious to know how the government MAKES money through war profiteering. I can see how they spend the hell out of it, but not sure how they profit. Thanks in advannce.
Posted by Devil_doge
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:12 pm to
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I'm curious to know how the government MAKES money through war profiteering


Man, if we made money off of war then all our aircraft would be in better shape.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:13 pm to
They get money from oil and opium. Geez, some of y'all just don't get it. How do you think we afford things like nuclear power and diversity training?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:14 pm to
You know, a new method of high rise building demolition was discovered on 911. Office fires. Office fires can bring a building down on its own footprint, at least according to the NIST (the federal government agency that investigated 911).

I'm surprised that demolition companies haven't implemented this cheap and efficient high rise demolition discovery. There is a real competitive advantage here for any demolition company willing to use this method discovered by NIST.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:16 pm to
Exactly. Blowing 85 columns almost simultaneously isn't that hard to conceal.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:16 pm to
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I'm surprised that demolition companies haven't implemented this cheap and efficient high rise demolition discovery. There is a real competitive advantage here for any demolition company willing to use this method discovered by NIST.

I'm not sure people would be too thrilled with the days of toxic smoke.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:20 pm to
Hmm, they must have limited it to Air bases. All I know is I used to go to the pool at the Air Guard base here all the time. Had several birthday parties there when I was a kid. I didn't even have a military id, just told then my grandpa was a Guard vet, no problem.

Then a couple weeks before 9/11 right before college started back up me and my gf went and the guy asked us all kinds of questions about who we were (despite my gf having a military id), why we were there, and said something to the effect that they were worried about a terrorist attack.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:24 pm to
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I'm curious to know how the government MAKES money through war profiteering. I can see how they spend the hell out of it, but not sure how they profit. Thanks in advannce.




The deep state controls the government/world. The deep state is not partisan (see the Uniparty in action currently) They enrich / propogate themselves via war. They use principles below to steer the masses:

Divide and rule (or divide and conquer, from Latin divide et impera)

and

Bread and circuses (or bread and games; from Latin: panem et circenses)


The higher level players are controlled via extensive blackmail rings (Pedogate). Most in DC are compromised (either willingly or drug induced).

Above begets /justifies human trafficking, organ harvesting, human experimentation, drug running

All the while some profit from the process, the rebuilding, the innovation, and the very blood/vitality of society

Thread where I go into detail/ defend above

This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Devil_doge
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:24 pm to
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dbeck


They won't even let me on the air guard base in Fort Smith past a certain time to use their gym even with my active military ID.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:26 pm to
TD Thread

Just to be clear, I feel this behavior is compartmentalized within organizations. This is not meant to shite on men/women serving honorably with noble intentions.

CBS

quote:

AP: U.S. contractor ignored security violations at Iraq base
7 AP May 3, 2017 4:57 AM EDT


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An American company that was paid nearly $700 million to secure an Iraqi base for F-16 fighter jets turned a blind eye to alcohol smuggling, theft, security violations, and allegations of sex trafficking -- then terminated investigators who uncovered wrongdoing, an Associated Press investigation has found.


quote:

The fired investigators, Robert Cole and Kristie King, said they uncovered evidence that Sallyport employees were involved in human trafficking for prostitution. Staff on base routinely flew smuggled alcohol onto the base in such high volumes that a plane once seesawed on the tarmac under the weight. Rogue militia stole enormous generators using flatbed trucks and a 60-foot crane, driving right past Sallyport security guards.


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The investigators say company lawyers ordered them to keep two sets of books, which they interpreted as an attempt to deceive auditors.

"One for the government to see and one for the government not to see," King said.


YouTube vid from AP about above


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Info about prior CEO of above

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John DeBlasio is a Managing Director for Bootstrap Capital and is responsible for all aspects of the firm’s activities. He has over 25 years of international experience in both the public and private sector working around the world. Most recently he served as the Owner & CEO of Sallyport Global, a firm he co-founded in 2004 to provide contingency operational support to the United States Government in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

John spent much of the last nine years traveling to Asia, Europe and the Middle East in support of Sallyport’s operations. John is also the founder of the GPD Charitable Trust which is focused on democracy promotion and late-teen/early adult intervention programs.

Prior to joining Sallyport, John worked in various sales and management roles in the commercial sector for companies such as General Electric, Philip Morris and META Group. John graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point and was recalled to active duty in 2003 to serve in Operation Iraqi Freedom as an officer in the US Army. He later retired after 21-years of reserve and active service as a Lieutenant Colonel.


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Local article relating to above

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Community Corner
West Point Grad Smeared By Charges Of Murder And Necrophilia For Hire, Sex Trafficking And Drug Smuggling: Lawsuit

The lawsuit also said there were false allegations of arms trafficking to the Taliban, ISIS and Chechen rebels.

Joseph Hosey (Patch Staff) - January 16, 2015 5:07 pm ET ?


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The defamatory statements involved accusations of murder for hire, necrophilia for hire, drug smuggling, the sexual trafficking of minors, tax evasion, and “illicit trafficking in arms, including supplying guns to the Taliban, ISIS and Chechen rebels,” the suit said.

Wadhams sued DeBlasio and two of his employees in 2010. Some of her claims included incidents in which DeBlasio allegedly “commented on the size of Sabrina Marie Wadhams’ feet and requested that she masturbate him ‘with her feet,’” asked her to “’strangle him with her hair’ in the course of sex acts,” and requested she “’masturbate with raw hamburger meat,’ then cook the meat and ‘feed it to him,’” her lawsuit said.

Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:39 pm to
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They won't even let me on the air guard base in Fort Smith past a certain time to use their gym even with my active military ID.

Before 9/11 it was no problem. A lot of people there apparently knew my grandpa just because he worked there for so long (40+ years, retired master sergeant). I'd just tell them I was his grandson and they'd let me in, no problem.

Two weeks before 9/11 they barely let us in to swim. Then after 9/11 they locked it (and Chaffee) down and I've never been back since then.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:45 pm to
I just came here to downvote you. Don't care what you actually said or if it makes sense.
Posted by Devil_doge
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:47 pm to
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Then after 9/11 they locked it (and Chaffee) down and I've never been back since then.


You're not missing much these days. I go to Chaffee every time I'm back home on leave and that place is desolate.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:50 pm to
Yeah hehe. I do miss being able to cut through there to go from Barling to Greenwood and vice versa.
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:51 pm to
How's that "new" I-49 working out?
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 7:02 pm to
It will be awesome when they connect it to I-49 near Alma. I'm looking to move to NWA in the next year though. When I do I won't look back
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 7:31 pm to
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I'm looking to move to NWA in the next year though. When I do I won't look back


Don't blame you one bit.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 7:42 pm to
My favorite WWII ear plane! The B-52 Stratosphere Fortress!
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