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re: So if I wanted to start my own protestant church... I'd need, what, a building?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:09 pm to Stitches
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:09 pm to Stitches
quote:no, the majority of priests do not take a vow of poverty - common misconception
The overwhelming majority do.
Most priests are diocesan priests - and they do not even take vows - just make promises. Most religious orders typically take vows but most priests do not belong to a religious order.
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:15 pm to Slippy
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My point, I think, is that anyone who wants to start a church can do so with relative ease. They just need a business plan (which must necessarily start with a place to meet, no matter how crappy) and a touch of charisma and the ability to persuade. They don’t need denominational authority. They can invent their own denomination. Free enterprise in action.
Protestants are snippy about this because it's a take that is oftentimes used to discredit them. Essentially there is no structure in being a protestant, they can almost makeup their own rules. Some don't dance, some don't drink, some don't watch TV, some don't cut their hair, some women only wear dresses, etc..., while others do all of those things.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:18 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:well they still do all of those things, some just don’t do them in public. Reminds me of an old joke I used to hear at the deer camp as a kid. Why do you always go fishing with 2 baptists.
Some don't dance, some don't drink, some don't watch TV, some don't cut their hair, some women only wear dresses, etc..., while others do all of those things.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:23 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:what is that? Like I’ve heard of them before like the knights Templar I think was one, but what goes into a religious order
religious order.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:27 pm to Epic Cajun
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Protestants are snippy about this because it's a take that is oftentimes used to discredit them. Essentially there is no structure in being a protestant, they can almost makeup their own rules. Some don't dance, some don't drink, some don't watch TV, some don't cut their hair, some women only wear dresses, etc..., while others do all of those things.
If you’re going to discredit a Protestant church, then do so by scripture, and if you’re going to go down that rabbit hole, then be prepared to also measure Catholicism by the same metric.
This is exactly what we are told in scripture to do, and I’d encourage everyone to do just that.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:31 pm to Mike da Tigah
quote:but anyone can start a church and it would be considered ‘Protestant’
if you’re going to go down that rabbit hole, then be prepared to also measure Catholicism by the same metric
Few people try to come up with a Catholic Church in a garden shed - not saying it hasn’t been attempted
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:31 pm to Slippy
Grace Cathedral in Akron, Ohio was the pulpit for the greatest late night television in Birmingham, Alabama in my youth,
Earnest Angley healed so many on TV, and you could order a prayer cloth.
Earnest Angley healed so many on TV, and you could order a prayer cloth.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:32 pm to Mike da Tigah
I didn’t say that I was discrediting Protestants, just that one thing that is oftentimes used to discredit them is the lack of structure from church to church. I don’t really care what religion someone chooses to practice.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:35 pm to GreenRockTiger
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but anyone can start a church and it would be considered ‘Protestant’
Few people try to come up with a Catholic Church in a garden shed - not saying it hasn’t been attempted
I’m talking about every word or action that comes out of any church, regardless of what denomination they adhere to. It doesn’t matter. Just because a preacher, a priest, or a denomination says “God says” doesn’t mean you believe them because you put your trust in that denomination. We are called to test every single thing by scripture (the Word of God) in the Bible. If it doesn’t pass the test, you should run because God is who we are accountable to, not a man or a denomination. That is who we all are accountable to.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:36 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:no, the knights Templar is not a religious order - religious order is like the Franciscans, Dominicans, or Jesuits. It’s a group of priests (or monks, sisters, or nuns) that follow a certain set of vows and rules.
what is that? Like I’ve heard of them before like the knights Templar I think was one, but what goes into a religious order
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:40 pm to Mike da Tigah
quote:right but this thread is about almost anyone’s ability to start a church - a few of my posts are a bit off subject
I’m talking about every word or action that comes out of any church, regardless of what denomination they adhere to.
The point of my post is saying that if I start a church - chances are it’ll be a Protestant one because there are just no rules - there are rules for some denominations but I can start my own non-denominational church - as long as I have followers
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:00 pm to GreenRockTiger
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The point of my post is saying that if I start a church - chances are it’ll be a Protestant one because there are just no rules - there are rules for some denominations but I can start my own non-denominational church - as long as I have followers
You can start a church worshiping whatever you like I suppose. It still has to measure up to biblical scrutiny if it’s called a Christian church however,
In my experience, most credible non-denominational churches have ordained preachers who’ve been accredited through respected institutions, but choose not to align themselves with mainline denominations for a myriad of different reasons. Similarly, there are mainline denominations that are splitting as fast as you can shake a stick at it over very serious doctrinal differences as it relates to sin, well covered throughout scripture, and you’re going to find a lot more non-denominations pop up as a result of just that, choosing to remain faithful to God and His word over their allegiance to their previous denominational affiliation.
I’m just saying that the only way you can truly tell if any church or denomination is credible is to test it by scripture, and that never really stops, as we are instructed to test everything by the Bible. Create a rule…. It has to measure up to scripture. It not, then it’s not valid. That’s why it is absolutely critical for Christians to be well versed in scripture, and not rely upon a preacher or priest. That is exactly how false doctrines, false teachers, and cults arise.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:15 pm to Mike da Tigah
I think you are missing the point of the thread.
And also, priests and a lot of preachers are well versed in scripture - not sure what you are talking about.
Joe Schmo who opened up Great White Light Non-Denominational and Cappuccino bar may need to be questioned - but a Catholic priest or southern Baptist preacher - they probably know the Bible pretty well
And also, priests and a lot of preachers are well versed in scripture - not sure what you are talking about.
Joe Schmo who opened up Great White Light Non-Denominational and Cappuccino bar may need to be questioned - but a Catholic priest or southern Baptist preacher - they probably know the Bible pretty well
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:23 pm to GreenRockTiger
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but a Catholic priest or southern Baptist preacher - they probably know the Bible pretty wel
Eh, if they did, they'd be neither.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:27 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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Eh, if they did, they'd be neither.
Right. At least we know you don’t know what you’re talking about.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:59 pm to Slippy
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I'd need, what, a building?
Don't forget to file your 990 with the IRS every year. Don't want to lose the 501(c)(3) status!
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:25 pm to TigerSprings
quote:How about the person who, let's say, just sewed you a tent or fished your dinner from the local lake?
Personally, I rather receive Jesus's body from a different person than he who sold me Cooper's tires.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:35 pm to Lsupimp
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The Church of Slippy. Much potential.
First rule of the Church. Slippy when wet.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:08 pm to Slippy
Nope, just a following,a good flavored koolaid, and a riveting lifetime movie personal struggle story.
Use YouTube/zoom video; no overhead like physical building…until you have large enough group of dumbasses that will fill it
Use YouTube/zoom video; no overhead like physical building…until you have large enough group of dumbasses that will fill it
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:16 pm to Slippy
When is Stripping for Jesus Dollar Dance night?
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