re: So Britain and France declared war on Germany for invading Poland

Study your history, dude.

Now if you really want to go down the rabbit hole of forbidden questions, ask what the form of Poland’s government was at the beginning of the war. Ask if it really was treating Germans badly. Ask if it relied upon the treaty from Britain and France and their assurances that they would honor it to bully Germans living in Poland and to refuse to give any ground whatsoever on the relatively reasonable territorial request of the Danzig Corridor.

Heck, you might even try to look at what country to the east of Germany had a ruling party that had an official position on what it called “The Jewish Question” modeled on the Nuremberg Laws. Of course, that might damage the whole modern idea that British and France went to war to stop a racist Hitler.

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I just asked a simple question

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No, you didn't. You did prove that you've never spent 30 seconds studying WWII, though.

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why declare war on one country and become the ally of another

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The whole enemy of my enemy thing

It was due to a treaty with Poland to protect them from German attack only.

France and Britain were still reeling from WW1 and didn’t want another war. Hitler made the deal with Stalin as a move to deter France and Britain from declaring war on him for Poland because they couldn’t fight Russia too. France and Britain declared war anyways but were very passive the first couple years. They half assed honored the treaty and Hitler ramped up his war machine in the meantime then started moving across Western Europe. The goal was to conquer Western Europe first, then use those resources to stab Stalin in the back and destroy the USSR. And it would have worked if not for 2 big events:

Japan got the US involved and Hitler declares war on us when he should have just dropped the Japanese as an ally after that and hoped that we left Europe alone. This gave Britain a lifeline and Hitler couldn’t ever fully conquer Europe

Hitler redirecting troops to Stalingrad before winter when he was only a few miles from Moscow. He could have taken Moscow then and rode out the winter there comfortably rather than having troops stuck in the cold in a stalemate with poor resources

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This, plus everyone had long memories going back to WW1. Germany was still the boogie man of Europe. Everyone was especially wary of them.

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I think this is a really underrated opinion in this thread. If you ever go to England and visit the countryside almost all of their war memorials are for The Great War and not WW2. WW1 permanently fricked up Europe and the wholesale slaughter of England and Frances best young men at the hands of the hun created a deep hatred of Germany where they were willing to dance with the devil (Stalin and the Communists). Winston Churchill wanted to partition Germany into 4 separate states but had to settle for the 4 different occupation zones and the two Germany's instead.

Britain was doing nothing but following its traditional foreign policy of opposing the strongest and closest continental power.

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Now if you really want to go down the rabbit hole of forbidden questions, ask what the form of Poland’s government was at the beginning of the war. Ask if it really was treating Germans badly. Ask if it relied upon the treaty from Britain and France and their assurances that they would honor it to bully Germans living in Poland and to refuse to give any ground whatsoever on the relatively reasonable territorial request of the Danzig Corridor.

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Poland's government was right wing authoritarian if not semi-fascist itself. However, the "reasonable" Danzig request was merely a foot in the door and the Poles knew it. The demands wouldn't stop there.

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Ask if it really was treating Germans badly.

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This was straight nazi propaganda. Goebbels made fake documentaries about Germans fleeing Poland and living in refugee shelters