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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"

Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:13 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:13 pm to
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You keep ignoring validity to why will is reaching for gun and telling this guy to get away. You can't rob a car and person in car says I have a gun and that gives legitimacy to robber pulling gun and shooting victim
I already said that dumbass. If Hayes was threatening will, and smith said I have a gun, it is too late for Hayes to invoke self defense. You just don't want to listen do you?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to
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But one of the first points you bought up in the original thread was Smith dragging his wife. And that was initially after news came out he was killed.




I don't see how that pertains to your hypothetical. What are you trying to imply?
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to
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You're acting like it's ridiculous to question the actions of both parties


No, I'm not. In specifically addressing LE and his perceived motiv. Never once did I say Smith wasn't capable of doing bad shite. I said he was shot and killed and people are recognizing him for the positive he has done
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to
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Clearly hit him and ran? You're making up facts. I don't see any contact.



Then why did Hayes try to pull over and why did Smith speed away?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to
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Because he saw a Mercedes behind him, stopped short and would later claim there was contact and his neck was hurting. Lawsuit.

Very common.




never go full Chadboi, bunchie. You are better than this.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:15 pm to
Per witness that was the events, why I arguing with me rather than the guy posting meaningless intersection pics of where murderer didn't stop
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:15 pm to
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Garland Gillen ?@garlandgillen
@LarryHolder @Chest_Rockwell7 another camera angle shows cars in front of red Hummer stopped at the light. Naquin in-studio alluded to it
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:15 pm to
Lester u keep not answering why he's brake checking 200 ft before intersection
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47238 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:16 pm to
funny thing is I read the stand your ground laws earlier and the defense may be able to bring in smith dragging his wife as evidence of him having a violent past.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 11:20 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:16 pm to
If the witnesses corroborate that, then Hayes has an extreme uphill battle

Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:17 pm to
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pertains to your hypothetical. What are you trying to imply?




That one of your first points if the roles were reversed might likely be something to the extent of him having a past of abusing his wife so this wouldn't surprise you. Why wouldn't it be if you bought it up in a real life scenario where he was killed?

I guess I'm implying that there is a specific reason you are knighting so hard but you won't state what it is. You are going the extra mile to try and prove everyone wrong. But maybe I'm just wrong.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:17 pm to
he was trying to hurt his neck for a lawsuit
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:17 pm to
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not answering why he's brake checking 200 ft before intersection

Uh oh. Look one post above yours
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73952 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:17 pm to


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Lester u keep not answering why he's brake checking 200 ft before intersection






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@LarryHolder @Chest_Rockwell7 another camera angle shows cars in front of red Hummer stopped at the light. Naquin in-studio alluded to it




next




Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:18 pm to
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Lester u keep not answering why he's brake checking 200 ft before intersection



He's on Magazine. Maybe he was trying to parallel park????

I swear, you people are acting like you've never driven a vehicle before and had to stop abruptly.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22961 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:18 pm to
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Because he saw a Mercedes behind him, stopped short and would later claim there was contact and his neck was hurting. Lawsuit.



People will laugh at this but it's plausible.

All I know is there was some shady driving and reactions going on the entire way down magazine st.

Eta: cars at the light kind of break this theory.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 11:21 pm
Posted by williejameshuft
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2012
167 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:19 pm to
Do you guys think there is going to be a video of the actual confrontation?

What the jury will hear (assuming Hayes testifies, which he likey will) is going to be two drastically different versions of the same story (assuming the wife lives and testifies, whixh it looks like she will).

Its will likely come down to which story is more believable, which could hinge on the wife's and Hayes' tox screens. There just aren't enough facts to say which side has the better case.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
176133 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:19 pm to
Cars in front like 100 ft up
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
176133 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:20 pm to
Lester he wasn't trying to hurt his neck actually silly
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288476 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:20 pm to
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That one of your first points of the roles were reversed might likely be something to the extent of him having a past of abusing his wife so this would surprise you.




I was merely pointing out that Smith has had run in before. That's it.

I would defend Smith in the same situation. Ive met him before a few times, he isnt a bad guy by any means. But I know a lot of nice guys who's light can flip in an instant. Mix in alcohol and you truly dont know anyone

quote:

You are going the extra mile to try and prove everyone wrong. But maybe I'm just wrong.


Im not trying to prove anyone wrong, but the facts that keep coming out are dispelling all of the original theories that Hayes was 100% guilty.
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