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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:59 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:59 pm to lsupride87
That was a wrong assumption based on fuller specifically failing to identify smith as the perp when directly asked. Relevance of this is pretty far down but I understand you're here to not say anything of meaning but do a lot of bitching
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:59 pm to Lester Earl
No, Hayes is guilty because Chad says Brees says so. And Brees is also going to take over the NO District Attorneys office because all the hearsay is true if it comes out of Drew's mouth.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:59 pm to quail man
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don't think you know what a break check is.
I wouldn't call what Hayes did a break check but unless he was in traffic there was no reason to stop where he did. That's not a red light or intersection or anything. That's a good 200ft or so from the corner of Magazine and Felicity.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:59 pm to lsupride87
Lsupride defending thugs one post at a time
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:00 pm to Fun Bunch
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really is quite bizarre, and it literally started as soon as it happened. Very odd.
I think he knows Hayes, which would explain it. I'm not saying anything is wrong with that but LE has been the main one 1)fighting to prove Hayes' innocence 2)keeping this thread going. I'm not sure I've seen LE in any other high profile murder or regular murder thread on here in quite some time.
LE if you know the dude I can understand where you are coming from, if you don't then you really are a strange person to care about this man's life so much.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:00 pm to Chad504boy
I wouldn't be shocked if the trial is moved from Orleans Parish.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:00 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Lol. So you have to wait until you see a gun and GIVE them the opportunity to kill you?
We don't know the sequence of events yet. But if you get in an altercation/aggressive argument, tell me you have a gun, turn to reach for said gun...I'm shooting. I feel like most people here shoot.
Why would you wait to see a gun rise to your face? It's likely too late. It's not like he said I have a gun and took off running to a car that was parked 2 blocks away. That would be totally different. He was feet away.
Had this been some random thug and a video is found showing thug telling a cop or another subject, i got a gun and turns to reach...boom cop/subject fires. 95% of this board would say justified, stupid games stupid prizes, dont do that in front of a cop etc.
We don't know the sequence of events yet. But if you get in an altercation/aggressive argument, tell me you have a gun, turn to reach for said gun...I'm shooting. I feel like most people here shoot.
Why would you wait to see a gun rise to your face? It's likely too late. It's not like he said I have a gun and took off running to a car that was parked 2 blocks away. That would be totally different. He was feet away.
Had this been some random thug and a video is found showing thug telling a cop or another subject, i got a gun and turns to reach...boom cop/subject fires. 95% of this board would say justified, stupid games stupid prizes, dont do that in front of a cop etc.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:00 pm to lsupride87
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If Smith never actually got out his car then Hayes is screwed and guilty as sin
I think there are eyewitness accounts of both Hayes and Smith out of their cars arguing.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:01 pm to lsupride87
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I think if that is proven that helps Hayes
It doesn't in any appreciable way. It works against him.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:01 pm to Lester Earl
LE, you won't find much chatter from me until reports started coming out but go ahead and keep making shite up. I had a cc permit for years so I guess that makes me a scientist too
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:01 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Actually a lawyer. He can't shoot a guy for opening a car door and getting in or leaning into it. There is no threat there. He has to see a gun see something that gives him a reasonable belief that his life is in danger.
What happened here does not appear to meet that standard.
so we're now assuming the defendant "got the drop" on Smith (pulled his gun out 1st)
even with an assumed verbal threat by Smith... he still didn't need to fire... the defendant is still in the offensive position and in the case of the shooting is still at fault
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:01 pm to Chad504boy
You are such a dumbass. I am not defending anyone. If Smith didn't have a gun, then Hayes deserves to rot in hell
If Smith had a gun and was reaching for it, then this case will be interesting
Why is it so hard for you to wait and see more of the facts?
If Smith had a gun and was reaching for it, then this case will be interesting
Why is it so hard for you to wait and see more of the facts?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:01 pm to 13SaintTiger
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. You are knighting so hard for this guy it's quite intriguing.
you blindly knighting for Smith is quite intriguing to me.
and I never said this video would be important in court. You, like Chad assumed wrong, and just tells me it is prob more important that what you are leading on. I just posted it, i didnt even make a comment on it other than he clearly hit him and ran.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:03 pm to Lester Earl
This is getting very interdasting.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:03 pm to Lester Earl
I actually specifically said this video doesn't matter at all. The 20-30 seconds before the killing is the only thing truly important.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:03 pm to Lester Earl
What's funny to me is that farquad and bencoleman are in full #BLM mode and don't even realize it.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:03 pm to Lester Earl
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Im just not going to sit here and blindly defend Smith because he was Saint.
Well Smith isn't the one who needs the defense. The fact is he was shot and killed, he didn't shoot anyone and he didn't kill anyone. He was a beloved icon in New Orleans. No one is blindly defending him, just recognizing someone that meant something to the city was shot and killed.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:03 pm to Lester Earl
Clearly hit him and ran? You're making up facts. I don't see any contact.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:04 pm to lsupride87
Nah, you keep ignoring why will was reaching for gun
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:05 pm to Fun Bunch
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Clearly hit him and ran? You're making up facts. I don't see any contact.
Hayes pulled off to the side of the road because ___________?
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