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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:03 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:03 pm to Lester Earl
Hayes fricked up instead of just getting the licence plate number to tell the cops, he escalated the incident. No justification to shoot Smith in the back.
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:05 pm to 4LSU2
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Still not a reason to chase Smith, rear end him, and shoot him to death.
I don't think anyone would argue otherwise, up until that point
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:06 pm to SirSaintly
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This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:06 pm to lsupride87
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I don't know why Hayes stopped where he did either. However, it isn't a quick stop
It doesn't look like a brake check, but I do find it odd that he stopped that abruptly so far before the light.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:06 pm to Lester Earl
quote:How? Unlawful, yes. But I don't see how that's aggressive.
running is aggressive
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:06 pm to rantfan
What if, IF, Smith was in fact reaching for a gun?
If that happened it will be interesting to see what happens
Zimmerman followed a kid, which escalated a situation, after being asked not to follow, then was able to get off due to "fearing for his life"
Which 95% of this board agreed with
If that happened it will be interesting to see what happens
Zimmerman followed a kid, which escalated a situation, after being asked not to follow, then was able to get off due to "fearing for his life"
Which 95% of this board agreed with
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:07 pm to KillerNut9
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Why was he stopping 30ish yards before the light?
not sure, cant really see what the car ahead of him was doing, but he was approaching a red light for sure
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:08 pm to bencoleman
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Are you serious? There was absolutely no damage to dipshits Hummer. He had to be a huge a-hole. His sorry arse didn't even check for damage. I hope that sorry motherfricker enjoys Angola.
if someone rear ended you and then took off, do you stop and check for damage before chasing or just chase to get the license plate?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:08 pm to lsupride87
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What if, IF, Smith was in fact reaching for a gun?
He was. So what. Will was reaching for it to defend himself. As noted by telling murderer to get out of here
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:08 pm to KillerNut9
Is it odd that smith stopped way behind Hayes at the previous light? Or am I just over thinking this entire situation?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:09 pm to bencoleman
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Are you serious? There was absolutely no damage to dipshits Hummer. He had to be a huge a-hole
Wait
The guy who was rear ended and tried to pull to the side of the road is a dipshit a-hole?
Who knows what happened once they had their confrontation, but Smith obviously fricked up in that video. To say otherwise is baffling
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:09 pm to Chad504boy
And Trayvon martin was punching Zimmerman because he feared the man following him and was defending himself
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:10 pm to Lester Earl
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But he clearly made some poor choices
Some poor choices?
Your family member is going to be in jail for the rest of his life because of "some poor choices" I hope all of it was worth it.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:10 pm to Mouth
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Is it odd that smith stopped way behind Hayes at the previous light? Or am I just over thinking this entire situation?
overthinking. it actually looks like normal stopping distance.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:12 pm to Melvin
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How? Unlawful, yes. But I don't see how that's aggressive.
i think it gives Hayes a clear reason to be upset. I bet his night was normal and he was perfectly calm before that. I think its pretty fair to say most people would be upset if that happened to them.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:13 pm to quail man
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someone rear ended you and then took off, do you stop and check for damage before chasing or just chase to get the license plate
I call my god damned insurance. Wtf do I pay them for?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:14 pm to Lester Earl
As far as I'm concerned, that video does nothing to help Hayes' self defense claim. If anything, that video hurts Hayes more than helps him.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:14 pm to Lester Earl
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not sure, cant really see what the car ahead of him was doing, but he was approaching a red light for sure
I don't even see a car ahead of Hayes at the light.
My best guess based off those videos is that Hayes thought Smith was getting too close and wanted to give him a warning when coming to the red light. Hence why he stopped pretty abruptly so far before the light. Smith was late to react (reason unknown at this point). Smith definitely tapped Hayes but it was so soft and at such an odd spot, Smith thought it was intentional on Hayes part, so he went around him.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:15 pm to bencoleman
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Are you serious? There was absolutely no damage to dipshits Hummer.
looks like it fricked up his spare tire holder. you can see it hanging to the side at the shooting scene.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:16 pm to KillerNut9
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I don't even see a car ahead of Hayes at the light.
My best guess based off those videos is that Hayes thought Smith was getting too close and wanted to give him a warning when coming to the red light. Hence why he stopped pretty abruptly so far before the light. Smith was late to react (reason unknown at this point). Smith definitely tapped Hayes but it was so soft and at such an odd spot, Smith thought it was intentional on Hayes part, so he went around him.
it was also in front of juans flying burrito. it is possible people were in or near the street.
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