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Small trial finds Hydroxychloroquine not effective for treating COVID-19
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:34 pm
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Whatever China’s “findings” were I will believe the opposite. If the results from this study are true that’s a huge blow to the relief effort.
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On Saturday the Food and Drug Administration approved the use of two antimalarial drugs, hydroxychloroquine and a related medication, chloroquine, for emergency use to treat COVID-19. The drugs were touted by President Trump as a “game changer” for COVID-19.
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However, a study just published in a French medical journal provides new evidence that hydroxychloroquine does not appear to help the immune system clear the coronavirus from the body. The study comes on the heels of two others - one in France and one in China - that reported some benefits in the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for COVID-19 patients who didn’t have severe symptoms of the virus.
Whatever China’s “findings” were I will believe the opposite. If the results from this study are true that’s a huge blow to the relief effort.
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:35 pm to TulaneFan
Motherfricker
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:35 pm to TulaneFan
French beg to differ
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:36 pm to TulaneFan
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evidence that hydroxychloroquine does not appear to help the immune system clear the coronavirus from the body
What? What does this mean?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:36 pm to TulaneFan
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The drugs were touted by President Trump as a “game changer” for COVID-19.
not saying the article is false, but this line comes off as salty for some reason.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:37 pm to TulaneFan
So one French study says it does help and one French study says it doesn't help. Sounds like we need more studies.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:37 pm to TulaneFan
Are we doing bets on this is fake news. 
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:38 pm to TulaneFan
Give it to me anyway
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:38 pm to TulaneFan
Same freaking article as bloomberg go figure!
Might want to try and search this site before posting as well...
Might want to try and search this site before posting as well...
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:40 pm to TulaneFan
But Fox News and their "experts" say it'll not only kill the China cough but every other frickin' disease Charlie Sheen happens to have too.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:40 pm to TulaneFan
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In contrast, however, to the Gautret study, eight of the 11 patients had underlying health conditions, and 10 of 11 had fevers and were quite ill at the time the dosing began.
This info is very beneficial. Never thought HCQ would help patients who are severely ill.
It seems like HCQ was given to patients severely ill in the ICU in this study. In which case, I would agree HCQ would not be appropriate to give in that context.
I think it'll be much more beneficial to give 3-5 days after onset of symptoms before the patient deteriorates.
There is currently a study looking at how HCQ can affect the virus prophylactically and in the outpatient setting before a pneumonia/ARDS develops.
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This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:41 pm to TulaneFan
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hydroxychloroquine does not appear to help the immune system clear the coronavirus from the body.
My understanding is that the hydroxychloroquine/Z pack combo isn’t supposed to clear coronavirus from your body, but rather helps keep it from worsening, thus keeping people off ventilators.
Is that completely inaccurate?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:41 pm to TulaneFan
I'll take anything Yahoo says with a grain of salt.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:41 pm to OKtiger
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It seems like HCQ was given to patients severely ill in the ICU in this study. In which case, I would agree HCQ would not be appropriate to give in that context.
Right. Well no shite it didn't work. The earlier you start treatment the more effective it will be. This is why 5 minute testing and starting treatment right away is so important.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:42 pm to TulaneFan
1 french study with 6 subjects vs another french study with 11 subjects. You can't determine shite with those low numbers, much less without a control group.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:43 pm to Bluefin
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My understanding is that the hydroxychloroquine/Z pack combo isn’t supposed to clear coronavirus from your body, but rather helps keep it from worsening, thus keeping people off ventilators.
Is that completely inaccurate?
We need more information but, that is certainly the leading hypothesis. HCQ will not bring you back to life when you have developed ARDS and you're on the vent.
I'm curious to see trials on how HCQ affects the virus when given 3-5 days after onset of symptoms before hospitalization
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:43 pm to TulaneFan
They are using bear bile and cat claws in china and say its working
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:45 pm to TulaneFan
And to think, this was just posted yesterday
https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/hydroxychloroquine-most-effective-coronavirus-treatment-poll/
https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/hydroxychloroquine-most-effective-coronavirus-treatment-poll/
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:45 pm to The Boat
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Right. Well no shite it didn't work. The earlier you start treatment the more effective it will be. This is why 5 minute testing and starting treatment right away is so important.
University of Minnesota is currently doing a clinical trial of prophylactic use and preemptive treatment with HCQ
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If this study turns out to be a wash, then we'll be inside for quite awhile
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