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re: Small 4 banger turbo cars for 50K+
Posted on 11/23/17 at 4:19 pm to TurkeysAndBees
Posted on 11/23/17 at 4:19 pm to TurkeysAndBees
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The 440i is a stupid-great sport sedan but if the priority is to derive a world-class sports car, IMO it just takes a quick test drive to walk away feeling like the Cayman/Boxster format is actually a bargain and in a class all alone. .
I get that its all about what you're looking for. Porsches are a great drive. Its really the Audi that I'm not a fan of and is more similar to the BMW in style/purpose.
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Posted on 11/23/17 at 4:22 pm to lsu xman
My 1.4 liter turbo Chevy sonic ltz for 17,000
Posted on 11/23/17 at 4:35 pm to Taxing Tiger
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That mustang will be a rattle trap within two years. Guaranteed.
Owned a 2013 base GT for 3 years, was still tight (no rattling or air leaks at high speeds).
Currently own a 2015 premium GT and there is only on part that rattled, the passenger seat belt receiver rattled against the center console. A small strip (an inch?) of felt tape on the inside fixed that.
The older mustangs were rattle traps for sure, but 2011+ Ford has really picked up their game.
Bang for buck sports car, its hard to beat the Camaro/Mustangs. The newest version automatics are capable of running high 11's stock. Not bad for a ~35k car with a warranty.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 4:40 pm to lsu xman
My 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo was the fastest car made by Porsche at the time. You can buy one of those and pay as low as $8K
Posted on 11/23/17 at 4:44 pm to Taxing Tiger
quote:you're smoking crack...i know a few people with the turbo Subaru's...they are freaking fast and reliable.who gives a rats arse about resale value.
That mustang will be a rattle trap within two years. Guaranteed.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 5:29 pm to Rize
quote:Fun Fact:
I think that new Volvo SUV is a 4 banger also.
All Volvo cars are exclusively available with 4 cylinder engines.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 6:05 pm to soccerfüt
Our turbo (T5) is plenty fast. 250hp is enough no matter how you shake it. It's got zero soul, but it's beautiful.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 6:11 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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My 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo was the fastest car made by Porsche at the time. You can buy one of those and pay as low as $8K
Great car BUT it was NOT the fastest Porsche in 1986.
The 951 2.5 liter turbo 4 still bangs out pretty reliable and user friendly power though
Posted on 11/23/17 at 6:27 pm to lsu xman
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The HP is decent, but I still feel getting ripped off.
For those specific models you're purchasing luxury and status, not performance.
As you've pointed out, Nissan/Honda/Toyota offer V6 family Sedans for almost half the price and are faster.
It's all in what you prioritize.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 6:41 pm to Rust Cohle
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Cadillac ATS has the most powerful 2.0T 272hp, 320 with a chip. I think it's the same as the camaro. Run sub 13 in the quarter
No fricking way.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 6:53 pm to Kcrad
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No fricking way.
Agreed, the ATS is a low 14 second car stock, high 13's with a tune.
The ATS-V (with 464hp) is a mid 12 second car. There'd be no reason to spend the extra cash on the ATS-V if all the ATS needed was a tune to be pretty much even with it.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 6:57 pm to lsu xman
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The HP is decent, but I still feel getting ripped off.
The drive is the bottom line. Modern turbo engines are simply amazing. The only reason to feel nostalgic about older, bigger, normally aspirated engines is sound. Modern turbo engines produce very wide flat power curves and are amazingly flexible.
While not small engines at 3.6/3.8L I wish every turbo detractor could drive a 911 Turbo S or GTR (hard) once. The power delivery when you hammer the throttle in any gear at any speed is stupifying.
While I understand and have often quoted "there is no replacement for displacement" it really isn't true.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:11 pm to lsu xman
I just got a rebate on a Buick Enclave for close to four thousand dollars.
It’s primo.
It’s primo.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:15 pm to Azkiger
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As you've pointed out, Nissan/Honda/Toyota offer V6 family Sedans for almost half the price and are faster.
It's all in what you prioritize.
Honda no longer offers the V6 Accord.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:27 pm to lsu xman
I'm still pretty young. 26. Still have my college car, an '05 s2000, kind of run down after putting 75k+ miles on it. Considering student debt, and the like, I'd recommend the motorcycle route. Biggest bang per buck by a mile. Triumph Daytona 675R 0-60 in less than 2.5 seconds if you can keep the front wheel on the ground. Garage it and have a banger like my car outside for rainy days.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:27 pm to Obtuse1
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The only reason to feel nostalgic about older, bigger, normally aspirated engines is sound.
Price as well. There's a reason why you need to spend roughly double the price on a vehicle powered by a smaller turbo engine to run equal with a larger N/A engine.
No doubt modern turbo engines have come a long way, and you reach a point even with larger N/A engines that you need to go forced induction to reach higher performance levels, but if you're looking for an entry level sports car larger N/A engines will be your best bet.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:29 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Honda no longer offers the V6 Accord.
Interesting, this just happened in 2018. Sadly I expect to see this happen for other models. Rumors are the pony cars will be losing their V8s soon and will be replaced with turbo 6s. Will be interesting to see what kind of numbers they'll put out.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:42 pm to lsu xman
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Civic 1.5L turbo for $20K+. For a Honda Civic!
Paid $22k for my NA Civic Si 10 years ago. That’s actually a lot of bang for your buck.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:43 pm to Obtuse1
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The only reason to feel nostalgic about older, bigger, normally aspirated engines is sound. Modern turbo engines produce very wide flat power curves
I love my three pedal N52. Can't wait 'till I need exhaust.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:43 pm to lsu xman
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I still feel getting ripped off.
Well you should..
Thanks to the EPA you will soon kiss v6 and v8 engines byebye.
And idiots are willing to accept 4 bangers in Audis and Mercedes-Benz's is because of the logo.
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