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re: Sleeping on a Not so "Smart" Bed During an AWS Outage is Dangerous

Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:49 pm to
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And you’d have no idea how long it was at that temperature. Sounds very unhelpful. Could just use common sense instead.

If the powers out more than 6-8 hours or so without opening the fridge, you need to toss the perishables.

Or, because I would know exactly when it lost power, exactly when the power came back on, exactly what temperature it was at when the power was restored, and exactly how quickly the temperature made it back within an acceptable range, I might be able to save an entire refrigerator full of food that I would have tossed if I were otherwise relying on vibes and Entergy's half-assed updates. It would also be trivial to add a small internal battery to power only the temperature sensors and storage during an outage, which would then be reported, in full, as soon as power was restored. Then we would know, to the minute, how long food was in the danger zone.

As I said, refrigerators would be way down the list of appliances I would care about being capable of connecting to the internet, but to pretend as though there's no reasonable use case for doing so just strikes me as silly.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:52 pm to
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Or, because I would know exactly when it lost power, exactly when the power came back on, exactly what temperature it was at when the power was restored, and exactly how quickly the temperature made it back within an acceptable range, I might be able to save an entire refrigerator full of food that I would have tossed if I were otherwise relying on vibes and Entergy's half-assed updates.

As I said, refrigerators would be way down the list of appliances I would care about being capable of connecting to the internet, but to pretend as though there's no reasonable use case for doing so just strikes me as silly.

Anyone who is dumb enough to buy a smart refridgerator also has Wifi and/or cable and/or cameras and/or the smart thermostats, or a number of other things up to and including an app from your electricity provider that gives you this exact same information.

And on top of all of that, its still just easier to use common sense.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:56 pm to
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Anyone who is dumb enough to buy a smart refridgerator also has Wifi and/or cable and/or cameras and/or the smart thermostats, or a number of other things up to and including an app from your electricity provider that gives you this exact same information.

Except that this thread is full of people saying that there's no reason to have anything other than computers and maybe a laptop connected to wifi. Those people would have zero extra information, correct?
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And on top of all of that, its still just easier to use common sense.

Easier, only in the sense that it's less precise and requires you to err on throwing out everything in the fridge. But sure, I suppose that's "easier".
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:57 pm to
The worst part was, he went on Twitter telling his User that his team was going to work overnight to fix everything.

Like how hypocritical is that? Why don’t you eat your own dog food?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:57 pm to
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Easier, only in the sense that it's less precise and requires you to err on throwing out everything in the fridge. But sure, I suppose that's "easier".

If your power was out overnight or for the entire working day, you need to throw the shite out. You don't need a thermometer to tell you that.

I'm missing what the point is.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:17 pm to
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If your power was out overnight or for the entire working day, you need to throw the shite out. You don't need a thermometer to tell you that.

I'm missing what the point is.

You're out of town. Based on Entergy texts, your power has been out somewhere in the range of 3-5 hours. That's all the information you have.

Person who owns the above hypothetical refrigerator is out of town. They get the same Entergy texts. When the power came back on, their fridge reported that it was without power for three hours and 35 minutes. The refrigerator reached a temperature of 56 degrees and was above 40 degrees for an hour and fifteen minutes. The freezer reached a temperature of 38 degrees (it had been packed to the gills).

My point, quite simply, is that I would vastly prefer be the latter person than you.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:23 pm to
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My point, quite simply, is that I would vastly prefer be the latter person than you.

Neither person is tossing all of their stuff. Well unless you count having get rid of that dogshit fridge that lost 20+ degrees in two hours
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 3:24 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:32 pm to
The devices can be hacked allowing access to your home network which could lead to identity theft.

Hacked devices can give recorded video and audio to hackers, essentially allowing surveillance inside your home.

Hackers can track your movements using your doorbell and even baby monitors leading to break ins.

DDOS can be used to shut down your devices or entire network.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31313 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Neither person is tossing all of their stuff. Well unless you count having get rid of that dogshit fridge that lost 20+ degrees in two hours

You should look up current food safety suggestions as well discern the difference between two hours and over three, but I was fairly certain this was going to happen

How about, for the sake of being reasonable people, you pretend as though my previous hypothetical skirts right into the danger zone, but not clearly past it. More information is better than less information. Anyone who insists otherwise is being unreasonable, in my opinion.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:37 pm to
I’ll keep the normal fridge that would never have that issue in that amount of time.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:49 pm to
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I’ll keep the normal fridge that would never have that issue in that amount of time.

Sounds good, mate
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13287 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:58 pm to
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Eight Sleep’s high-spec internet-enabled mattresses ... which also manufactures and sells internet-enabled mattress covers and pillow covers


The frick do your mattress, mattress cover and/or pillow cover need to be internet enabled?
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:14 pm to
there’s nothing in my house connected to the internet except the TV and phones. There never will be anything else

it just amazes me how lazy people are
Posted by 21savage
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Member since Apr 2018
301 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:31 pm to
Reminds me of the Disney movie smart house, the house turns on the residents of the home

Will be a reality in the not so distant future!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292699 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:34 pm to
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One day people are going to realize that having everything in your house reliant upon the internet maybe isn't the best idea. I know that's an old school stance, but it's one that I appreciate.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:35 pm to
8 Sleep for life. Here's last night's data with 22 AI adjustments made to maximize my rest / recovery

This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 4:36 pm
Posted by djangochained
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:36 pm to
I love 8 sleep
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13287 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:49 pm to
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SirWinston

Of course you'd have that garbage... and gleefully brag about it.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
99489 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:08 pm to
The savings on AC alone make it a worthwhile investment. It keeps the mattress so cool that I rarely turned my hvac on during summer evenings
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 5:10 pm
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