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re: Sleep apnea treatment options

Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15534 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:18 pm to
I'm not ready to try surgery and I hate the god damn CPAP. I recently bought a Glideaway ComfortBase Ascend bedframe. It's an adjustable bed frame that allows me to tilt the bed as well as the standard head and foot adjustments. I went with the tilt base because I am a side sleeper and the head adjustment only fricks up my back, with tilt I can sleeping with my head up 6 inches or more and that has helped some. It's not a game changer, but I am getting better sleep.

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If you have a low BMI and moderate to severe ahi, you may be a could candidate for the new tongue stimulation (inspire). Think like a pacemaker for your tongue while you sleep.


Interesting, my BMI is normal so losing weight really won't get me anything, will have to look into this.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8976 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

I'm not ready to try surgery and I hate the god damn CPAP. I recently bought a Glideaway ComfortBase Ascend bedframe. It's an adjustable bed frame that allows me to tilt the bed as well as the standard head and foot adjustments. I went with the tilt base because I am a side sleeper and the head adjustment only fricks up my back, with tilt I can sleeping with my head up 6 inches or more and that has helped some. It's not a game changer, but I am getting better sleep.


This is an example of an airway.


Consider a dental option.



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This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15534 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Consider a dental option.


I have, adjustable beds are of a similar idea of getting tissue/weight off the airway. I talked to the dentist and decided against it.

I have bad sinus and acid reflux issues. Adjustable beds can help with that as well, so I decided to try this option first.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14280 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:02 pm to
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Get on a treadmill once in a blue moon Fat arse


It's not just a fat persons disease idiot.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:08 pm to
If feels like there are a few fat people in this thread in denial about fat contributing to their sleap apnea simply because some non fat people have sleep apnea too.

If you are looking for a surgical alternative to the cpap, try gastric bypass.
Posted by tbabino
Member since Aug 2014
1537 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:20 pm to
I'm the dentist from earlier. There are 2 options and 2 options ONLY that work. And they are all based on what your Apnea-Hypopnea Index...which is obtained from a sleep study. If that number, which is the number of times per hour that you either stop breathing or struggle to breath,is above 30-35 then you are best served with a CPAP.If that number is less, then it's very acceptable to use an oral appliance...of which there are MANY. I've been in practice for 30 years and treated this condition for over 20 years...I've prescribed nearly every lab fabricated option out there. They either cannot be adjusted as much as many patients need or they are too flimsy...or both. That's why I ONLY prescribe the appliance I mentioned earlier. It's known as The Moses...named after the dentist who invented it, Dr Allen Moses.
It's also important to know if there is a condition present known as central apnea...which cannot be treated with an oral appliance at all...best treated with a BIPAP.
I WOULD CONFIDENCE prescribing an oral appliance to a patient if they just refused to do a sleep study...or just refuse to wear a CPAP.In that instance an oral appliance is better than a patient doing nothing.
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
6491 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:36 pm to
Every dude I know who has been tested, is found to have Sleep Apnea. I personally think it's a racquet. I tried that shite for a couple of weeks and took the equipment back ,then told the doctor, i'm not interested.

I never met anybody who died of SA
Posted by tbabino
Member since Aug 2014
1537 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:39 pm to
bigwheel...this is nonsense. A sizeable percentage of people who "die in their sleep" and aren't old, infirmed, or in any other way compromised, pass from sleep apnea or complications from apnea. You know not of what you speak.
Posted by Meaux Bettah
Tiger Nation
Member since Nov 2011
2591 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:50 pm to
I have severe obstructive sleep apnea.

I'm a study case at UCSF. I am the first person EVER to have this solution to obstructive sleep apnea. It's going well. I'm in month 4.

LINK

MAGNAP
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78360 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:53 pm to
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Get on a treadmill once in a blue moon
Fat arse


i got it here. its because of the fricking allergies in middle TN. you may not move here with allergies but you sure as hell will get them afterward.

but yes, to SS's point. you need to work your lungs out once in a blue moon so they get enough freaking air that you aren't a snoring a-hole at night.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18813 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:55 pm to
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Get on a treadmill once in a blue moon
Fat arse


Lol. I'm not fat.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18813 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:58 pm to
Thanks for the info! I appreciate your input.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78360 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:59 pm to
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tbabino


how much is it? difference between the regular and 'elite' model?
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:59 pm to
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I never met anybody who died of SA


A dear friend passed away at 42 years old from sleep apnea.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32482 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:00 pm to
All of this is dumb, and bullshite..
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78360 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:00 pm to
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Lol. I'm not fat.


i have shortness of breath at night due to my newfound allergies.

i feel like my snoring (which just started to become a problem for me 6 months ago and I'm 50) is related to how much 'crap' is in my lungs when i don't take a zyrtec every day.

i've found getting some good interval training in (to the point i'm actually coughing from breathing so hard) goes a long way to eliminating my snoring.

but again thats anecdotal and has no scientific backing. it just feels like i've opened my lungs up and cleared out some of the garbage.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18813 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:01 pm to
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there though if you are adamant about not having the CPAP machine.


I've never tried one, but they just look extremely uncomfortable, and I can't sleep on my back. Plus I've read that they don't actually decrease your blood pressure and heart rate even though may help you to breathe easier. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6107 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:03 pm to
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I never met anybody who died of SA


No one dies Of sleep apnea. You for from the long term effects of heart strain, poor oxygenation, and poor sleep.
Posted by tbabino
Member since Aug 2014
1537 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:06 pm to
The Moses appliance in my practice is $1600...which may be the cheapest price for THIS APPLIANCE in America. I know personally several of my fellow dentists charge $2500 or more for the exact same appliance. I know that 1600 isn't pocket change but this is the best appliance I've ever seen...and I wear it myself. There are cheaper alternatives no doubt. But again The Moses has durability and adjustability that no other appliance offers. My personal appliance is nearly 3 years old and it's still great. Knocked my AHI down from 26 to 9. And my snoring is non existent.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18813 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:08 pm to
Thanks for sharing!
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