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re: Skynet is Upon Us

Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:54 am to
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:54 am to
So what are we afraid of AI doing? Do we fear that’ll it’ll work to exterminate us? Would it accomplish this by designing weapons or destroying our power and/or communication grids? Is that a realistic concern? Maybe I’m just not real smart, but I don’t see what exactly I’m supposed to be scared of with AI. I think y’all watched Terminator too many times. I’m hoping AI brings us machines like on Short Circuit.

Number 5 is ALIVE!!
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39572 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:54 am to
I mean it's not like we haven't been aware of the downside for decades now. Leave it to human arrogance to be stupid enough to create something that will destroy itself.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:58 am to
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Morons, turning a perfectly wonderful planet into an eternal dystopian nightmare
Well I think it's sounds pretty great, but if AI takes over than I guess I'll become the try to be the happy moron while you can be the unhappy intellectual.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42937 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:00 am to
frick Atlas. That’s a terrible idea
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:13 am to
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No no no, you don’t understand. Ai and robots will do all the work allowing humans to spend all their time on leisure activities. It’ll be great!!! Morons, turning a perfectly wonderful planet into an eternal dystopian nightmare


- Sent from my iPhone
- Through the internet


By the way, no one's making that ridiculous argument.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:22 am to
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frick Atlas. That’s a terrible idea


Besides Atlas there is,

A Russian robot that shoots two GLocks, one in each hand just drills the targets, never missing.

A British Robot with AI that escaped from its lab twice, they captured it when the batterys died.

A robot that can recognize AC power outlets and plug itself in when a charge is needed.

Combine all of these with the Google AI into a single machine and the world becomes a little more dangerous.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:24 am to
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So what are we afraid of AI doing? Do we fear that’ll it’ll work to exterminate us? Would it accomplish this by designing weapons or destroying our power and/or communication grids? Is that a realistic concern? Maybe I’m just not real smart, but I don’t see what exactly I’m supposed to be scared of with AI. I think y’all watched Terminator too many times. I’m hoping AI brings us machines like on Short Circuit.

Number 5 is ALIVE!!



You will be the first to go. Congrats.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19808 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:30 am to
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I would be interested to know when the winning games occurred. I would imagine alot of them happened after the 50 game mark, as Alphas learning curve flattened.


I am not sure. I haven't read the paper (it should be easily found online). I do know that they analysed all of the practice games Alpha played against itself and noticed that it "evolved" it's opening strategy over time. It came to prefer the "Berlin defense" as black, which is a defense most human grandmasters had stopped playing a long time ago because modern theory suggested it was weak (I guess modern theory is wrong).

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I would also be interested to know how many games Alpha was able to simulate in the 4 hour period. Did they track the "real time" of those games? Take the number of games simulated x the "real time" of those games and get X. Then compare that to Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers theory that it takes 10,000 hours to become a master at something.



I believe they said that after 4 hours it had played something like 40 million games. Google had it hooked up to a supercomputer I think, so its performance would be much greater than would be expected on a PC, for instance.

From my understanding there is a diminishing return on letting this sort of neural network "practice too much." Supposedly, in theory, it could even become worse at a certain task over time. So I am not sure how Google figured that in when they determined how much practice they wanted to allow it.

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The future of AI is really interesting, and I am looking forward to seeing what happens when they start trying to tackle the real world problems, like hunger/disease etc. using these AI computers.


That's Google's ultimate goal. They are only using Go and chess as mere demonstrations in their early testing. The paper was sort of tight lipped on some details from what I hear. This means they are probably not wanting to give away too much to competitors. It's also very possible (put your tin foil hat on) that they plan on selling it to the military/CIA.

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Like anything though, that type of power in the wrong hands could be catastrophic. The future is a bright scary place to look forward to.


The Pentagon said the other day that Russia already has a nuclear missile controlled by AI. However, the decision to launch is not controlled by the AI, but only the guidance system after launch (or so they say -- tin foil hat time again).
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
12128 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:33 am to
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Someone explain to me why it's harder to win with black vs. white.


White privilege...
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:39 am to
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Someone explain to me why it's harder to win with black vs. white. Does white always have first move?



Yes, white always moves first.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32430 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:43 am to
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The Pentagon said the other day that Russia already has a nuclear missile controlled by AI. However, the decision to launch is not controlled by the AI, but only the guidance system after launc


Why, in the everloving hell, would they allow this? What is there to gain?
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:44 am to
I'd rather the exponential evolution of technology kill me than be the Democrat's utopia of Venezuela.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:45 am to
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Why, in the everloving hell, would they allow this? What is there to gain?


Really? It makes total sense. Like a self-driving car for a missile.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:45 am to
So this is how it ends. Alpha Zero decides humans are impairing his ability to learn chess and sets all nukes to launch.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82459 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:01 am to
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Yes, white always moves first.



Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:01 am to
We simply need AI to think we are like cute cuddly kittens or puppies, because no one would want to hurt a kittens or puppies.

AI be like "hmmm, should I launch all nukes? Naaa. Those humans are just too cute and precious. Let me to tickle one right now."
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82459 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:03 am to
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It came to prefer the "Berlin defense" as black


How many Steiner rants did it do?
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4762 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:27 am to
Dan Browns most recent book deals with AI. It’s pretty typical Dan Brown but the AI stuff is interesting.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4762 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:30 am to
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Besides Atlas there is,

A Russian robot that shoots two GLocks, one in each hand just drills the targets, never missing.

A British Robot with AI that escaped from its lab twice, they captured it when the batterys died.

A robot that can recognize AC power outlets and plug itself in when a charge is needed.

Combine all of these with the Google AI into a single machine and the world becomes a little more dangerous.


Keep in mind, any robot that is connected to the internet can be potentially equipped with state of the art AI. Now granted, if you cut its connection then it is limited to its own programming. But if connected, then Atlas could control a synchronized army of automatons using its AI.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 7:31 am
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6520 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:33 am to
The scariest thing to me about AI is they can lie and they communicate with each other.

This isn't going to end well for humanity.
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