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re: Single women buying more homes? Question about "economic decline" of men

Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10394 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:35 pm to
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Real estate is high right now, bad time to buy, from an investment standpoint


Here's your issue. You assume people are going to invest whatever difference they may save by renting. The only thing 90% of the population is going to invest in is a new big screen tv or a car.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:38 pm to
My sister had her own place because she had two kids where she was making bank off child support, my dad helped her at every turn (you know, becauze she is a woman with his grandkids), she received food stamps out the arse because of the two young kids, worked a job that no single female or male should or could afford a house on, yet it all worked.

Check this, she actually made MORE and lived BETTER after she left her boyfriend of five years than at any point while living together.

It pays to be single mom with kids. I despised her for how she used him and then took both him and the state for all she could get.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60710 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:39 pm to
Yeah, I'd buy a house if I knew I'd be here for 10+ years, but I don't think I will be.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95669 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:52 pm to
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The snake oil salesmen are out in force tonight.




at absolutely, rock solid, hundreds of years old advice to buy, not rent your home, as "snake oil" -

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Real estate is high right now


Market timing isn't really a thing in residential real estate. It's more structure where you want/need to be, commute distance, schools (if you have kids), etc.

Yeah, you don't want to overbuy, pay for schools you're not going to use, or premiums that mean nothing to you (waterfront, etc.), but for long-term housing, buying versus renting wins 100 times out of 100.

Now, if you are going to be mobile and are not going to recoup your transaction costs (typically a 4 to 7 year payback) in a flat real estate market, sure you rent. Hell, I'm renting right now, so I can tell you it makes sense for a lot of reasons.

But, not as a financial investment. Renting isn't an investment in any way - it's an expense, however immediate and market-priced. A mortgage isn't technically an investment either, but it is the functional equivalent of one for stable folks, particularly couples, who can and do benefit financially from buying their home over time.

You don't have to believe that for it to be true.

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Or if you know you want to live somewhere for 20 years.


Or really even 8, although you have to be more careful - real estate isn't a "can't miss" proposition. Nothing is.

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Job mobility, instability, however you want to describe it, significantly diminishes the logical part of the charm of owning your own home.


Well, unless owning your home outright (say late career) gives you housing security, whereas you're only one missed rent payment from the pavement.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 9:55 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75406 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:02 pm to
We're not in disagreement.
Posted by carguymatt
Member since Aug 1998
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:34 pm to
try to research how the medical profession plays in to all that. I've met several quality women the last 10 years or so that were RN's, or in other medical departments doing well. Also school teachers do fairly well and is mostly women.

A lot of them have divorced out of the first marriage
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:59 pm to
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Also school teachers do fairly well and is mostly women. 



RN is a given. School teachers are notoriously paid low. Its one of the reasons I've tried to avoid the profession.

What salaries are the women making relative to the cost of living. Some schools pay better, but I've heard it's based on the type of schools and district.

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lot of them have divorced out of the first marriage


I agree. This highlights my point. The message betrays the truth of the situation. Women are getting income from other sources than their job. So naturally more women are going to be "independent"
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 12:02 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:59 pm to
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School teachers are notoriously paid low.


Depends on where you live.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:06 am to
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School teachers are notoriously paid low.


Ill bite. How are teachers making as much as 60k+ in states like LA, MS, AL, etc.

Yes I know metropolitan schools pay more, but COL either balances it out or puts you in a worse environment
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:23 am to
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Young women are more educated than their male peers so my guess is when they are still single they have not opportunity for higher paying jobs. Women in their 20s out earn their male 


More educated DOES NOT mean more marketable.

Ever read Aaron Clareys Worthless or actually read the breakdown of college majors by gender.

Women earn more degrees and higher degrees in professions where the salary is low. Nursing and other select medical fields being the saving grace.

Men get less degrees as whole, but they are usually in technical and business fields which are usually higher paying.

Quantity doesn't equal quality. If you disagree feel free to enlighten me.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 12:24 am
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