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re: Should teachers/faculty be allowed to have a concealed weapon?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:14 pm to mattz1122
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:14 pm to mattz1122
It is what the US deems "school" shootings since 2000, 212 school shootings.... If you are going to claim "majority" I want to see proof rather than just your vague opinion.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:16 pm to tduecen
I’m talking about the mass shootings. Not some schmuck misfiring into a locker.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:17 pm to mattz1122
I'm talking what is classified as a school shooting, would you like to clarify what is a "mass" shooting.... 2 students shot, 5 students shot, 10 students shot, how many is enough to be considered "mass" for your narrative to work?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:22 pm to tduecen
Your whole thesis was that an armed teacher would’ve stopped these mass shootings. Now you’ve gone so far off the rails that you’ve completely diverted from the topic. You’re now focused on shootings that were stopped in situations where (obviously) no teachers were armed and zero deaths occurred. Come on, man.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:25 pm to tduecen
On the whole, I think you're just as likely to escalate situations as you are to stop a mass shooting.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:26 pm to mattz1122
quote:Incorrect, you read it that way. I mentioned school shootings, a school shooting can involve someone only being injured.
Your whole thesis was that an armed teacher would’ve stopped these mass shootings
quote:I have not, you have in order to fulfill your claim originally
. Now you’ve gone so far off the rails that you’ve completely diverted from the topic.
quote:On page one, I mentioned the incident in Arkansas with the armed principal, I never once mentioned a unarmed situation I only provided what the United States deems as school shootings.
You’re now focused on shootings that were stopped in situations where (obviously) no teachers were armed and zero deaths occurred.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:28 pm to slackster
quote:I actually really disagree with this, the reason being I think if students knew the faculty was armed they would think twice about it. I do not think it would escalate a situation as the students who are at school to learn would not be the types to bring weapons into a school. Those that would would debate actually bringing them onto a campus knowing that the teachers/faculty could open fire on him/her.
I think you're just as likely to escalate situations as you are to stop a mass shooting.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:53 pm to tduecen
They too busy fricking other students
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:03 pm to Bootyrich
Close, secure all entry doors
Problem solved
Problem solved
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:28 pm to tduecen
It should be a requirement of all school employees to carry at least one lethal weapon at all times.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:31 pm to tduecen
In short:
Yes. With prerequisites/restrictions.
Yes. With prerequisites/restrictions.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:31 pm to tduecen
quote:
I do not think it would escalate a situation as the students who are at school to learn would not be the types to bring weapons into a school. Those that would would debate actually bringing them onto a campus knowing that the teachers/faculty could open fire on him/her
Kids that are there to learn aren't the problem. However, there a sizable portion of gun owners who can't wait to find a reason to use them on another person. Think about someone like Ronald Gasser.
The majority of gun owners are responsible, no doubt, but the off chance that they'll limit a shooting spree will be offset by a frick ton of guns on campuses.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:32 pm to Big_Sur
All schools should have their fire sprinklers reworked so that they can fill the halls and classrooms with tear gas at any moment. Would really make students think twice.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:34 pm to Cocotheape
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Would really make students think twice.
It's not as if these mass shooters are thinking rationally. They're killing 10-20 of their peers, they're not exactly going to care about consequences.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:34 pm to Cocotheape
Tear gas is for pussies, needs to be lethal. Threat of a gas chamber will prevent mass shootings for sure.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:48 pm to tduecen
No
the solution is threat exclusion not interdiction
the solution is threat exclusion not interdiction
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:54 pm to BRgetthenet
quote:
It’d be great if they were undercover as well.
No, I glad my security armed openly, that is the greatest deterrent.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:56 pm to Big_Sur
quote:
It should be a requirement of all school employees to carry at least one lethal weapon at all times.
No, but should be a requirement that every school employee is trained in first aid.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:57 pm to tduecen
Do we really want to live in a place where everyone is carrying an agent of instant death at all times?
That sounds even worse than a police state.
I'd take my chances with the astronomically low odds of being shot in a terrorist situation, rather than having every chemistry teacher being locked and loaded.
That sounds even worse than a police state.
I'd take my chances with the astronomically low odds of being shot in a terrorist situation, rather than having every chemistry teacher being locked and loaded.
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