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re: Should teachers/faculty be allowed to have a concealed weapon?

Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:14 pm to
It is what the US deems "school" shootings since 2000, 212 school shootings.... If you are going to claim "majority" I want to see proof rather than just your vague opinion.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55387 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:16 pm to
I’m talking about the mass shootings. Not some schmuck misfiring into a locker.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:17 pm to
I'm talking what is classified as a school shooting, would you like to clarify what is a "mass" shooting.... 2 students shot, 5 students shot, 10 students shot, how many is enough to be considered "mass" for your narrative to work?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55387 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:22 pm to
Your whole thesis was that an armed teacher would’ve stopped these mass shootings. Now you’ve gone so far off the rails that you’ve completely diverted from the topic. You’re now focused on shootings that were stopped in situations where (obviously) no teachers were armed and zero deaths occurred. Come on, man.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:25 pm to
On the whole, I think you're just as likely to escalate situations as you are to stop a mass shooting.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:26 pm to
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Your whole thesis was that an armed teacher would’ve stopped these mass shootings
Incorrect, you read it that way. I mentioned school shootings, a school shooting can involve someone only being injured.

quote:

. Now you’ve gone so far off the rails that you’ve completely diverted from the topic.
I have not, you have in order to fulfill your claim originally

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You’re now focused on shootings that were stopped in situations where (obviously) no teachers were armed and zero deaths occurred.
On page one, I mentioned the incident in Arkansas with the armed principal, I never once mentioned a unarmed situation I only provided what the United States deems as school shootings.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:28 pm to
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I think you're just as likely to escalate situations as you are to stop a mass shooting.


I actually really disagree with this, the reason being I think if students knew the faculty was armed they would think twice about it. I do not think it would escalate a situation as the students who are at school to learn would not be the types to bring weapons into a school. Those that would would debate actually bringing them onto a campus knowing that the teachers/faculty could open fire on him/her.
Posted by Bootyrich
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2015
1189 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:53 pm to
They too busy fricking other students
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3967 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:03 pm to
Close, secure all entry doors
Problem solved
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118224 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:26 pm to
Read and learn.



LINK
Posted by Big_Sur
Member since Nov 2012
1171 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:28 pm to
It should be a requirement of all school employees to carry at least one lethal weapon at all times.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10629 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:31 pm to
In short:

Yes. With prerequisites/restrictions.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

I do not think it would escalate a situation as the students who are at school to learn would not be the types to bring weapons into a school. Those that would would debate actually bringing them onto a campus knowing that the teachers/faculty could open fire on him/her


Kids that are there to learn aren't the problem. However, there a sizable portion of gun owners who can't wait to find a reason to use them on another person. Think about someone like Ronald Gasser.

The majority of gun owners are responsible, no doubt, but the off chance that they'll limit a shooting spree will be offset by a frick ton of guns on campuses.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:32 pm to
All schools should have their fire sprinklers reworked so that they can fill the halls and classrooms with tear gas at any moment. Would really make students think twice.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

Would really make students think twice.


It's not as if these mass shooters are thinking rationally. They're killing 10-20 of their peers, they're not exactly going to care about consequences.
Posted by Big_Sur
Member since Nov 2012
1171 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:34 pm to
Tear gas is for pussies, needs to be lethal. Threat of a gas chamber will prevent mass shootings for sure.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33620 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:48 pm to
No

the solution is threat exclusion not interdiction
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
43974 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:54 pm to
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It’d be great if they were undercover as well.


No, I glad my security armed openly, that is the greatest deterrent.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
43974 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

It should be a requirement of all school employees to carry at least one lethal weapon at all times.


No, but should be a requirement that every school employee is trained in first aid.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
11513 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:57 pm to
Do we really want to live in a place where everyone is carrying an agent of instant death at all times?

That sounds even worse than a police state.

I'd take my chances with the astronomically low odds of being shot in a terrorist situation, rather than having every chemistry teacher being locked and loaded.
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