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re: Should people on welfare be allowed to have children?

Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:45 am to
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Also offer an up front cash payment to anyone wishing To be sterilized.




I honestly think this would work. I saw a report on Vice of a woman who was driving around the country giving crackheads like $300 if they would agree to be sterilized. This is a woman who had adopted children from crackheads and was tired of seeing children abandoned on the streets so that women could get welfare to buy drugs.

She's a hero.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141237 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:52 am to
Allowed to? Yes

Paid for by Tax dollars after, no.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26350 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:53 am to
We should stop rewarding welfare recipients who have more children.

If you're already receiving government assistance, we should offer free birth control. But if you have another child while already receiving government assistance, then they don't get any additional assistance above what they were already receiving (other than Medicaid for the child and WIC vouchers for baby food/formula).

Also, welfare recipients should be required to show proof that they're working full time (40 hours a week). If they're not employed for 40 hours a week, they do community service that adds up to 40 hours combined between their jobs and service hours.

Stop providing an incentive for people to spend their whole lives on welfare and make it what it was designed to be....temporary assistance to get back on one's feet.
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2147 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:56 am to
And that's the problem, people have figured out how to work the game.
Posted by cfa626
Member since Apr 2016
561 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:02 am to
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You shouldn't reproduce if you are poor. Sorry, but it's true.

Tell that to all our grandparents, and their parents. 8-14 kids growing up on a farm.



Very different times. My grandparents had 6 kids and a farm. They were poor and couldn't pay hospital bills when the kids were born. To pay off their hospital bills, they furnished the hospital with eggs and chicken for the cafeteria.
They also lived within their means. Hand-me-down clothes for the kids, patched up clothes when needed. No big vacations, just a trip to Biloxi every couple of years. My grandma learned to give the kids haircuts to save money.
Today's "welfare" people have smart phones, the latest name brand shoes, extravagant birthday parties for all their kids, hair and nails done, etc.
It's completely different from the way things used to be.
Posted by CaptN
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2013
387 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:02 am to
The birth control should be mixed in with the needy cheese and cans of peanut butter, that you can only pick up on the weekend with your large yellow coupon, in the single welfare checkout line.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18369 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:17 am to
I don't think its in anyone's best interest for people living in poverty to put further strain on the systems. However, the environment promotes it. Its only going to get worse as low skill level jobs start getting cut due to automation from tech. advancements. A young woman/man/couple with a couple kids no college degree is battling uphill and that's with welfare to help make ends meet.
Posted by knowingabyss
Vermont
Member since Aug 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:20 am to
Nope and I always said if I was president, one of my first rules would be, "The more children you have, the less you get each month".
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:22 am to
Nope, people who are on welfare and choose to have a child anyway should be sterilized , or euthanized. I don't care which.
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1419 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:27 am to
Nope. Birth control should be a condition of receiving welfare.
Posted by Das Jackal
Da Bayou
Member since Sep 2011
2653 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:28 am to
That's the problem, having children becomes these people's "career".
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30520 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:29 am to
They shouldn't get paid to have kids.

Currently the more you have the more you get paid which is stupid
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70472 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:30 am to
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You shouldn't reproduce if you are poor. Sorry, but it's true.


Tell that to all our grandparents, and their parents. 8-14 kids growing up on a farm.



And how many of those recieved a check from the government, free healthcare, food stamps, etc?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31597 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:33 am to
Birth control would work if they take it, but

quote:

every man should be required to sign documents where they pledge not to father children while on welfare


is meaningless.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:35 am to
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You should 100% be allowed to reproduce if you are poor. Poor/rich has nothing to do with it.

How many poor people are living without help from the government? If you're living without help from the government, then you aren't really poor, IMO.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13169 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:37 am to
Our country would have died off if that's what people did during the Great Depression.

Also, being poor and being on welfare are not the same.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:37 am to
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child becomes a ward of the state


Why do you want to punish children for their parents' misbehavior?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31597 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:37 am to
I also really doubt the extent of people calculating to have kids to get more welfare money. By and large I think these people have less than stellar decision making skills (generalization and there are plenty of exceptions) and I think they just frick and get pregnant and there's another one, I don't think they go run scenario's by TurboTax or log or get a pen and paper and think out the numbers then say aha and go frick and have a baby. Some may who knows, but I doubt it's prevelant.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:40 am to
Nope.

At the least put a maximum number of kids the government will pay for. It shouldn't e profitable to make babies that you can't afford.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:43 am to
I love the poor that is just down-voting everyone in this thread
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