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Should Harrahs get a Contract Extension for New Orleans - Deal Dead
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:03 pm
Looks like the legislature is back up to it old tricks.
Harrahs is looking to pony up “350 million in improvements and continuing its 60 million dollar fee while extending its contract to 2054.
I say hell no to this. Not because I hate gambling, but I feel New Orleans needs to have a competitive gaming environment.
The only winner in this arrangement is Harrahs.
WBRZ
Harrahs is looking to pony up “350 million in improvements and continuing its 60 million dollar fee while extending its contract to 2054.
I say hell no to this. Not because I hate gambling, but I feel New Orleans needs to have a competitive gaming environment.
The only winner in this arrangement is Harrahs.
WBRZ
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 5:26 am
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:05 pm to Tarps99
Absolutely. Will balance budget and fix education. Wait, is this 1989?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:05 pm to Tarps99
Why not up the $60 million payment at least? Seems like a good deal for Harrah's to keep everything the same and lock in payment amounts for 30 years.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:11 pm to Tarps99
Since we've been getting all that sweet gambling money, Louisiana has skyrocketed to #49 in the country in most major categories.
Why mess up a good thing?
Why mess up a good thing?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:13 pm to Tarps99
Would like to see more casinos but I’m not sure where they would go in the tourist areas.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:16 pm to Tarps99
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The only winner in this arrangement is Harrahs.
But they lost zero of dollars because of the smoking ban? thought they were closing?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:17 pm to Tarps99
I think Harrahs is good for New Orleans. IMO, it's the best casino in the state. It is relatively small, then again, you don't want it too big.. With that said, if they would add an area for live entertainment, that would be a good thing. It would be something else that will bring people into the city.
Well, I mean if you hate gambling then that's all that really matters then.
What about the people Harrahs employees? What about the hotels, restaurants, etc that gets business strictly from people, who come from out of town, just to go to Harrahs? What about the tax money that Harrahs produces?
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I say hell no to this. Not because I hate gambling, but I feel New Orleans needs to have a competitive gaming environment.
Well, I mean if you hate gambling then that's all that really matters then.
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The only winner in this arrangement is Harrahs.
What about the people Harrahs employees? What about the hotels, restaurants, etc that gets business strictly from people, who come from out of town, just to go to Harrahs? What about the tax money that Harrahs produces?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:19 pm to OweO
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What about the people Harrahs employees? What about the hotels, restaurants, etc that gets business strictly from people, who come from out of town, just to go to Harrahs? What about the tax money that Harrahs produces?
Well if they opened up competition there'd be even more casinos for people to come for. Or did I miss the point of the OP.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:21 pm to Walking the Earth
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Since we've been getting all that sweet gambling money, Louisiana has skyrocketed to #49 in the country in most major categories.
Kind of like when Edwin Edwards wanted to get people to vote for riverboat casinos, he told everyone all the money it generates would go to education.. And in reality, I don't think education saw a cent of that money?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:21 pm to Tarps99
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Harrahs is looking to pony up “350 million in improvements and continuing its 60 million dollar fee while extending its contract to 2054
A large part of the improvements is a self serving 2nd high rise Hotel next to their current location.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:23 pm to Tarps99
Is this an open bid situation? If not, why not?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:27 pm to OweO
The money from gaming did go to education, but the money that had been going to education prior to legalized gaming was diverted eslewhere. The net was no additional money for education, just a reshuffling of deck chairs.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:32 pm to Tarps99
Leave Harrahs alone. They have the best comps of any casino around
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:33 pm to jlovel7
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Well if they opened up competition there'd be even more casinos for people to come for. Or did I miss the point of the OP.
That is my point with this post. Harrahs needs competition.
I am someone who gambles on occasion and I normally drive past Harrahs to the Mississippi Gulf Coast because of a number of reasons.
The parking situation is horrible, yes they have free parking, but you have to gamble “x” amount and walk is very substantial compared to other casinos. The food is terrible and overpriced compared to their casinos.
Also, their comps and freeplay offers are not worth the hassle of parking and walking.
I knew when someone posted a few months ago that Harrahs had came up with this proposed grand expansion that it somehow had to be tied to $$$$$.
This bill needs to be stopped or amended before JBE locks up the state to 2054 with a mediocre land based casino.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:37 pm to Tarps99
Yeah NOLA having only one casino makes no sense obviously because the government was incentivized to do so even though its not in the best interest of the people of the city. I was actually shocked when I came to New Orleans for the first time and found out they only had one casino.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:42 pm to jlovel7
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Well if they opened up competition there'd be even more casinos for people to come for. Or did I miss the point of the OP.
I guess I should have been more clear. New Orleans isn't Las Vegas. People go to Las Vegas for the entertainment provided by the hotels, to gamble, etc. Casinos, gambling, entertainment, etc is Las Vegas. It's what built the city.
People come to New Orleans for other reasons (I am not talking about the people who live in driving distance who can go to NO just to gamble, but the people who go to Mardi Gras or for the culture.. including the food, for Saints & Pelicans games, plus the Sugar Bowl and other events). IMO, there really isn't an environment for casinos to compete, but there is a demand for one nice casino where people, who come to New Orleans for other reasons, can go to while here.
I am all for competition, but I think in this case, things might end up similar to what happened in Atlantic City.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:45 pm to OweO
Tough call. Detroit has three and I think they overall have been a healthy thing and stabilizing force. But, our city kind of needed the hotel space for big events, if nothing else.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 7:36 pm to Bunk Moreland
Update:
Times Pic reports that the expansion does call for a 7 million dollar increase in annual payments while removing certain restrictions that were placed in the initial gaming law.
Times Picayune
I am still not buying it for another 30 years.
These long term contracts should be illegal or be more open term.
It is essentially giving them a guarranteed business for the next 40 years.
Times Pic reports that the expansion does call for a 7 million dollar increase in annual payments while removing certain restrictions that were placed in the initial gaming law.
Times Picayune
I am still not buying it for another 30 years.
These long term contracts should be illegal or be more open term.
It is essentially giving them a guarranteed business for the next 40 years.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:50 pm to Tarps99
Well that's what happens when the politicians, law enforcement, and judges get on the Harrahs pay roll.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:54 pm to Tarps99
No, because they haven’t lived up to the old deal, why would we trust them now?
Letter to the Advocate
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Harrah’s broke its promise to pay no less than $100 million a year in taxes and now pays just $60 million. Harrah’s broke its promise to maintain employment levels and reduced its workforce. Harrah’s broke its promise not to have eateries beyond a cafeteria and now competes with our local restaurants. Harrah’s broke its promise not to have a hotel and now has one and is asking for a second.
Letter to the Advocate
LINK
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 8:56 pm
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