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re: Shakespeare was a racist
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:52 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:52 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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I don't know how many black people ole' Bill had ever seen during his time.
There are other races you know. Othello is a muslim (Moor).
But read the article
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Professor Farah Karim-Cooper, co-director of education at Shakespeare's Globe, said: 'It is really reductive to suggest we are 'assaulting' or 'canceling' Shakespeare. 'We are holding conversations about race and diversity. If you knew your Shakespeare, you'd understand that Shakespeare is robust, enduring and that he can handle this. He's not going anywhere. We love him too and no we are not saying he was a racist! 'To suggest that we are saying Shakespeare was racist when we know actually very little about the man himself - I mean scholars are still debating as to whether he was Catholic or Protestant - is just food for a superficial culture war that frankly we are not interested in participating in.'
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:56 pm to Zappas Stache
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a superficial culture war that frankly we are not interested in participating in.'
But then
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We are holding conversations about race and diversity.
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There are other races you know. Othello is a muslim (Moor).
Muslim is not a race but I get your point.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:03 pm to Geekboy
Has any of our Cancel Culture Defender Squad been by to tell you:
This isn’t a big deal!
Why do you care anyways!?!
Who cares! No one watches Shakespeare plays!
It’s one theatre no one has ever head of, c’mon.
Then when they really get desperate, “Melt”
This isn’t a big deal!
Why do you care anyways!?!
Who cares! No one watches Shakespeare plays!
It’s one theatre no one has ever head of, c’mon.
Then when they really get desperate, “Melt”
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:07 pm to Zappas Stache
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Othello is a muslim (Moor).
I believe you’ll find that he was a Moop.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:09 pm to fr33manator
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Methinks a shite I giveth not,
If those who’ve long succumbed to rot,
Cause Karens clutching pearls to frown,
I’d rather bigot be, than clown.
My God this is a masterpiece! Bravo!
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:15 pm to Zappas Stache
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'We are holding conversations about race and diversity.
Of lack thereof does not =
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We love him too and no we are not saying he was a racist!
I mean, what is the point of the story? That they cannot prove that Shakespeare was racist, but since he was white, that he probably was?
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:27 pm to TheHarahanian
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Putting current standards on historical cultures is ridiculous.
No, the current standards are ridiculous, actually. Shakespeare had more truth in his little cod-piece than modern critics have in their mawkish constitutions.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:04 pm to jimmy the leg
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what is the point of the story? That they cannot prove that Shakespeare was racist, but since he was white, that he probably was?
This is a great point. “We know little about the man but since we’re obsessed with race we’ll assume he was racist but trust us we aren’t canceling him just maybe some censoring”
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:09 pm to fr33manator
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Methinks a shite I giveth not,
If those who’ve long succumbed to rot,
Cause Karens clutching pearls to frown,
I’d rather bigot be, than clown
Bwwaaahhhahahaha
You sir have won the internet today.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:13 pm to Geekboy
Othello?
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:31 pm to biglego
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And of course Anne Boleyn
You know, it always struck me as a terrible tragedy that she was beheaded.
And absolutely awful crime against potential historical comedy.
Just think, if Henry instead, had had her lowered into a big pot of oil suspended over a roaring fire, he could have casually strolled by and and quipped,
“Oh look, it’s my ex wife Anne...
Boilin’.”
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:54 pm to fr33manator
Based on today’s standards everyone and everything before 2020 is racist.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:00 pm to Geekboy
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Shakespearean scholar Sir Stanley Wells said he 'would not' represent Shakespeare as racist and argued the 'contrast of light and dark' could refer to behaviour, rather than appearance.
Sounds like someone in that article had some sense.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:56 pm to td1
But somehow this isn’t
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:21 pm to LSUGrad2005
quote:I think it's really just that way for people who watch 24 Hour news channels and follow certain segments of the population on twitter.
What a clown world we live in
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:23 pm to Geekboy
Someone wake me up when black MFers stop trying to bang every wretched white trash dog in existence.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:29 pm to OBReb6
No other culture on the planet despises it’s own heritage
Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:21 am to biglego
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No other culture on the planet despises it’s own heritage
I don’t think the others even feel any guilt for their atrocities.
The Mongols have a Statue to Ghengis Khan
Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:40 am to Geekboy
Jesus cancel culture is the worst. I dont care im gonna continue teaching and performing it
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:02 pm to Geekboy
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Others argued in the journal that it was not a question of 'either/or', and that there was space to study Shakespeare alongside other authors dealing with more modern themes. Ayanna Thompson, professor of English at Arizona State University and president of the Shakespeare Association of America, recommended Toni Morrison, August Wilson, W.E.B. Du Bois and James Baldwin, among others.
First they’ll say they can lessen the time Shakespeare gets, but then he’ll get less and less time and more and more vilified until he’s dropped in favor of a “trans woman of color” for being an old white racist.
If you don’t believe in the slippery slope by now you are either a drooling moron, or complicit.
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