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re: SG revenues now pegged at 64 million dollars a year?

Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:27 pm to
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So how does Tasha afford her Tahoe payments now? How will the COA balance their books and operate now?




She has a Mercedes C-Class.

Not sure how she fits in it though....
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
6665 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:32 pm to
Show me on the doll where St George touched you
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:43 pm to
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pegged


NT74 is probably lurking in this thread now....
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53525 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:46 pm to
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They were all A schools before the ISD, so was central.

Central wasn't an A school before the split. I'm a Central alum.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10890 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:52 pm to
Fascinating civic and social experiment.

In the short term I don't see peoples lives changing drastically, but long term I think the area will change significantly.

Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:54 pm to
Except the STG ISD vote probably won’t pass
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476648 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:04 pm to
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That said, the 2020 budget has already been prepared without the cuts St. George will necessitate, and Chief Administrative Officer Darryl Gissel says it’s too late to redo the numbers for the upcoming fiscal year. The finance department recently completed its draft of the budget, which by law, must be presented to the Metro Council on Nov. 5 and approved by the council in December.


so JBE fricking over StG and delaying the vote truly fricked over BR's ability to budget? WOW
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476648 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:06 pm to
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Except the STG ISD vote probably won’t pass

that depends on a bunch of things

it wouldn't have passed Saturday, i agree

in a couple years when the emotions settle, you move the vote to some random Saturday in the spring when nothing else is on the ballot? it has a chance
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:10 pm to
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in a couple years when the emotions settle, you move the vote to some random Saturday in the spring when nothing else is on the ballot? it has a chance
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in a couple years when the emotions settle, you move the vote to some random Saturday in the spring when nothing else is on the ballot? it has a chance


Or perhaps city leaders have demonstrated that they can do better and others may follow their lead.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104010 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:11 pm to
Let’s be fair... JBE didn’t frick over BR’s ability to budget, BR fricked over BR’s ability to budget.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70025 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:12 pm to
NBR should generate more to offset the loss of SG
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7178 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:45 pm to
Legit question... What percentage of the sales tax dollars in St. George are generated by Baton Rouge resident purchases?

For all this talk of being a tax colony you never see anyone get in the weeds and attempt to tie the tax dollar back to the resident.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104010 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:52 pm to
Considering which things got incorporated into BR as opposed to St George? Probably not as much as you would think.

BR grabbed Walmart, Sam’s, most of the mall, etc, in the last set of incorporations.

I don’t think Perkins Rowe got grabbed but that area isn’t what it was expected to be when it was built.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5048 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:56 pm to
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More control over local taxes and eventually, a good school system. Those are the reasons for the St George movement. Very simple.


I'm at a safe distance from all of this and don't have a dog in the hunt, but will enough of the St. Georgians really be willing to tax themselves for good schools? What if there aren't fast and dramatic improvements?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:56 pm to
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And THIS is why St. G people are pissed. 55% of their taxes go to things that don’t directly benefit them. BRPD and BRFD don’t service their area.






I could be mistaken, but I don't believe the 55% number is only for BRPD and BRFD.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7178 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:58 pm to
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Considering which things got incorporated into BR as opposed to St George? Probably not as much as you would think.

BR grabbed Walmart, Sam’s, most of the mall, etc, in the last set of incorporations.

I don’t think Perkins Rowe got grabbed but that area isn’t what it was expected to be when it was built.


There is a lot of retail in the St. George footprint, and if you got into the weeds of it I surmise you would find a substantial portion of the sales tax St. George proponents claim as produced by residents of the new city are based on purchases by residents of the city proper and other jurisdictions entirely.

That is part of the inherent dishonesty of the movement that was so off putting for me.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 5:02 pm to
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There is a lot of retail in the St. George footprint, and if you got into the weeds of it I surmise you would find a substantial portion of the sales tax St. George proponents claim as produced by residents of the new city are based on purchases by residents of the city proper and other jurisdictions entirely.

That is part of the inherent dishonesty of the movement that was so off putting for me.


You can break it out, but what's the point? That's not how sales taxes work anyway, at least for physical retail shops. You wouldn't expect Lake Charles casinos to send taxes to Texas, would you?

Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7178 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 5:06 pm to
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You can break it out, but what's the point? That's not how sales taxes work anyway, at least for physical retail shops. You wouldn't expect Lake Charles casinos to send taxes to Texas, would you?


I understand that, but you miss the point. St. George proponents overstate the burden they carry for city fire and city pd when they don't acknowledge that a sizable portion of the sales tax collected in St. George is paid by Baton Rouge residents, even the ones from North BR that are so reviled on this message board.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104010 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 5:09 pm to
My point is that the retailers grabbed by BR are probably getting a bigger chunk of money from St george as St George retailers are getting from Br.

Kip grabbed as many of the big retailers as he could last time around in order to frick St George.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 5:13 pm to
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I understand that, but you miss the point. St. George proponents overstate the burden they carry for city fire and city pd when they don't acknowledge that a sizable portion of the sales tax collected in St. George is paid by Baton Rouge residents, even the ones from North BR that are so reviled on this message board.



And vice versa, so what’s your point?
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