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re: Settle a drunken argument: Tyson vs Bruce Lee no holds barred KO match

Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:35 am to
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:35 am to
Some of you are guzzling the Bruce Lee cool-aid. Bruce Lee was not a fighter! His street fight stories were likely just stories! I enjoyed his movies and his legend but I recognize it for what it is. Non contact karate does not train someone to fight in a full contact match, believe me. If you haven't been in the ring and taken punches you are going to crumble or turtle up and get thrashed when you get hit. I honestly believe Mike Tyson right now could beat Lee when he was in his prime. I am talking about a fat 50yr old Tyson that hasn't trained in years and I still believe he would destroy Lee when Lee was in his prime.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15800 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:36 am to
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He did but he was also a basket case by that point and was out of shape compared to when Cus d'amato was still around as said earlier.
agreed. So Cus Tyson knocked out washed up, has beens & Crazy Tyson got his arse whipped. But Lee's legend is exaggerated, lol. FTR, stout, you're the only Tyson guy here that's worth debating.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19696 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:36 am to
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I've been trying to find this out the last 5 pages. Just expect a or a picture of him doing finger push ups

FWIW, this means he hits harder than most professional heavyweight boxers.

His friends also said he beat up 3 bouncers.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15800 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Some of you are guzzling the Bruce Lee cool-aid. Bruce Lee was not a fighter! His street fight stories were likely just stories! I enjoyed his movies and his legend but I recognize it for what it is. Non contact karate does not train someone to fight in a full contact match, believe me. If you haven't been in the ring and taken punches you are going to crumble or turtle up and get thrashed when you get hit. I honestly believe Mike Tyson right now could beat Lee when he was in his prime. I am talking about a fat 50yr old Tyson that hasn't trained in years and I still believe he would destroy Lee when Lee was in his prime.
ok
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:37 am to
But, but Lee does 1 finger push ups and could kick a stuffed punching bag really hard!!!
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:37 am to
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FTR, stout, you're the only Tyson guy here that's worth debating.
That makes it sound like you're worth debating.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53914 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:37 am to
Tyson fricks lee up IRL.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35722 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:37 am to
In a ring... Tyson in less than a minute.

No holds barred though, Lee would rip out Tyson's eyeball or dislocate his knee before Tyson knew what happened.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:38 am to
No one can use Tyson losing to other heavy weight boxing professionals against him when Lee never had to do the same
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37904 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:38 am to
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You think Tyson, growing up poor in Brooklyn and also was arrested 38 times by 13 from fighting and shite, just forgot what he learned from being in those fights as a young boy?



This experience is one of the valid points made in Tyson's case. Lee wasn't going to scare Tyson win or lose. As far as everyone bring up size, I train in Krav Maga. I can point you to some women who stick it to men 180+. Many fighting systems can negate the size advantage.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:39 am to
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You think Tyson, growing up poor in in Brooklyn and also was arrested 38 times by 13 from fighting and shite, just forgot what he learned being in those fights as a young boy?



No not at all, but being trained in a style of martial arts that includes all forms of fighting would give Lee an advantage.

Honestly I don't think there is a clear cut answer for the OP. I think if you had some way to simulate the fights, it could be 50/50 or out of 10 times Lee wins 6. I can't discredit Mike Tyson in his prime; his speed made him a physical freak of nature, but Lee was a physical freak of nature in both strength and speed and dedicated his entire early life to martial arts and conditioning, to the point where he developed his own style that, paraphrasing his own words, discarded the unnecessary shite from martial arts that left people open. But like Tyson supporters say, one good hook from Tyson and Lee would probably be sprawled on the ground, unconscious.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 8:41 am
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:40 am to
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No holds barred though, Lee would rip out Tyson's eyeball or dislocate his knee before Tyson knew what happened.


For the last time, is there video of Lee destroying another fighter like this?
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:41 am to
I honestly believe Pac Man or Mayweather would annihilate Lee in or out of the ring. Lee was not a fighter!!!!
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:41 am to
This is what it comes down to.

We can only guess at how badass Bruce Lee was in a fight. We never saw it. He never tested himself in martial arts tournaments.

We don't have to guess with Tyson. We saw him leave bodies in his wake. He was a monster. A heavyweight champion. A psychopath.

That's the difference for me.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179324 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:41 am to
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Bruce Lee was not a fighter! His street fight stories were likely just stories!


A lot of the BL stories were propaganda out out by movie studios that obviously had a vested interest in creating this great undefeatable icon.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15800 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:41 am to
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No one can use Tyson losing to other heavy weight boxing professionals against him when Lee never had to do the same
so I can still use the tomato cans from the 80s?
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
12867 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:41 am to
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Tyson wouldn't touch him. Lee was way faster than Tyson in his prime.

Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15800 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:42 am to
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Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:42 am to
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This is what it comes down to. We can only guess at how badass Bruce Lee was in a fight. We never saw it. He never tested himself in martial arts tournaments. We don't have to guess with Tyson. We saw him leave bodies in his wake. He was a monster. A heavyweight champion. A psychopath. That's the difference for me.


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Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69494 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:42 am to
Lee would destroy Tyson.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 8:42 am
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