re: Second Toyota engine recall delayed because company doesn’t have a fix for problem

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From what I’ve read and saw on the internet, the gear heads are calling BS on this. It’s not machining debris, it’s a faulty design and use of the wrong oil. A thicker oil can remedy the problem.

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There are some thoughts that the oil pressure gets far too low at idle and can't supply enough oil to the main bearings when accelerating from a stop, which is why the failures are happening in the non hybrids.

Allegedly they fixed an issue in Q2 of 2024. Rumor is a newer design of the 3.5 is coming with the 2027 line.

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Rumor is a newer design of the 3.5 is coming with the 2027 line.

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for toyota's sake i hope thats true, but ultimately that makes the 2022-2026 model years completely worthless. i imagine every one who still owes on one will be under water the second they announce a redesign.

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but ultimately that makes the 2022-2026 model years completely worthless.

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those vehicles will ultimately get new engines if they are in the build range exhibiting failures.

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A thicker oil can remedy the problem.

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As with Ford and GM, that's putting a bandaid on problem, not a fix. My Rav4 takes 0W-16, I use Idemitsu IFG-5 0W-16 with a 5K mile OCI and Toyota oil filter.

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My son is in an engineering program at UT. Starts his junior year this summer instead of taking a break, trying to stay ahead of the curve. His interest is in automotive engineering and more specifically, aerodynamic engineering.

He's already had several offers for internships, but opted to continue school rather that intern over the summer. He'll wait until next summer. Any recommendations on how to initially break into the automotive industry as an engineer?

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1. TAKE THE INTERNSHIPS! Probably too late now, but never, ever pass on an internship, even if it's not exactly what he wants.

2. Avoid automotive. Seriously. Tesla aside, which has its own stresses, the industry is incredibly cutthroat and political. Getting onboard with an OEM requires knowing somebody, checking a DEI box, or being the very pinnacle of your class. Out of ~500 interviewees who made it to the final round of in-person interviews at WHQ for the OEM I went to work for in 1990-something, I was ranked #3 for the entire year. They scored you on literally everything, right down to dinner conversation skills, in the two-day interview process. OTOH, if you know someone or check a box, you can bypass all of that. Asian makes skip the DEI part, but are incredibly ruthless in culling as you advance through the ranks. Toyota works on something like the European soccer league relegation system. Hire in there, the best stay with Toyota, next best go to Aisin to make transmissions, next best go to next keiretsu company in line and so on down to the poor slobs engineering door locks and weatherstrip. TMNA may be better, but your career path is capped there.

3. Aerospace is in the beginnings of a renaissance with electrification of flight, air taxis, etc. There is far more opportunity there. I left aerospace for automotive because the former was undergoing massive contractions after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the "end" of communism. If I were starting out today with an interest in aerodynamics, I would go aerospace, and ME is fine vs AE, maybe even better.

I could type for a long time, but the end answer will be the same - avoid automotive. There will continue to be significant upheaval in the industry over the next few decades. Google Sergio Marchionne's talk about capital inefficiencies. If you can wrap your head around that, you will see that there isn't room for so many automakers. What happens to the OEMs will be 10x worse for suppliers.

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I just bought a 2021 Tundra a month and a half ago, and it took me forever to find one with decent mileage at a decently fair price because people were scooping them up left and right.


This. they are few and far between. When replacing my 2014 tundra with over 200k miles back in nov 24, I was looking for a 21 tundra or older with decent miles. Took me about 5-6 weeks, finally found a 2019 with 39k miles, and bought it on the spot. I was about to head to natchez to look at another tundra with a v8. There were no other ones around that i could find.

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Hate to break it to you, but they are "few and far between" because they just didn't sell all that many relative to the market. Those models were selling at about 1/4 the rate of the more popular trucks. Yes, they last a long time. They also get awful FE and had dated interiors, electronics and ride/handling. People didn't buy them for all of those reasons.

The new one is setting all-time sales records for the model, and it's just competitive for the first time in years, not a segment leader in pretty much anything. We'll see how long the sales rate sustains.

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Toyoda

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had dated interiors, electronics and ride/handling

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I completely agree with interiors and electronics, they were far behind the times for a long time. All the bells and whistles is not what sells me on a vehicle, that just more shite that can break and have to pay to get fixed.I don't have an issue with how it rides, tho I'm not in other trucks often enough to really compare. I bought it because of their reputation under the hood. I hate taking my truck to the shop to get worked on, who has time for that.

I got rid of my 2014 at just over 200k miles, and literally the only time I had an issue was my starter. at probably 130k miles.

Yet another reason why the used car market is out of control.

Who wants to buy this overengineered crap?