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re: San Diego teacher held at border patrol checkpoint refuses to answer questions
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:02 am to jbgleason
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:02 am to jbgleason
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Long established Federal Law that you are subject to questioning within 25 miles of the Border as if you are at the Border. This was instituted because there are crossings at places where the terrain is not conducive to placing an Immigration Checkpoint thus the actual point is inside the US. But frick her for not bothering to find that out.
Border Patrol chief said 100 miles.
Which is it?
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:02 am to jbgleason
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Long established Federal Law that you are subject to questioning within 25 miles of the Border as if you are at the Border.
CFR please?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:02 am to GetCocky11
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I think they're only allowed to ask.
This would actually be very effective if they only ask in English.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:05 am to crap4brain
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:07 am to crap4brain
How is this any different than the border patrol agents that sit on I-10 outside of Lake Charles? I have seen them dozens of times and still have no idea what they are doing there.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:07 am to cave canem
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CFR please?
I am not looking that shite up this morning. And it's not a CFR, it's black letter statutory law.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:09 am to Oddibe
I always thought drugs.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:11 am to ThatMakesSense
Nope. They are making PC immigration stops. Especially those big buses coming from the Border.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:11 am to KosmoCramer
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Many around here are too dense to understand laws, case law, and the Constitution.
I understand her legal rights, I just don't understand the end game, outside of getting attention.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:13 am to ThatMakesSense
quote:why would border patrol be looking for drugs 300 miles from the border?
I always thought drugs
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:14 am to slackster
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I just don't understand the end game, outside of getting attention.
What is everyone's end game in upholding the Constitution? We've come a long sad way if we can't expect what it was intended to protect.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:15 am to Oddibe
I-10 from Houston corridor.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:16 am to teke184
You're gonna die bitch!!! I'm comin' outta da booth!!!!
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:16 am to Oddibe
It is 100 miles.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:18 am to Oddibe
quote:They are less than a 100 miles from our country's border at the Gulf of Mexico.
why would border patrol be looking for drugs 300 miles from the border
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:20 am to GetCocky11
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I don't even think the Border Patrol is allowed to require you to hand over "papers" proving citizenship. I think they're only allowed to ask.
If you refuse to answer, they are allowed to detain you until your citizenship is determined.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm certain this is correct
Seems to me everything was handled properly. The woman was in her right and the guards seemed to handle their job as well.
Seems like a non story.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:22 am to Sao
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What is everyone's end game in upholding the Constitution? We've come a long sad way if we can't expect what it was intended to protect.
That's not her end game and you know it.
She's the equivalent of the open carry guy with an AR-15 strapped across his back. They're both attention seeking clowns.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:22 am to slackster
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She's the equivalent of the open carry guy with an AR-15 strapped across his back. They're both attention seeking clowns.
amen
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:24 am to slackster
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She's the equivalent of the open carry guy with an AR-15 strapped across his back. They're both attention seeking clowns.
Indeed.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:24 am to KosmoCramer
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Many around here are too dense to understand laws, case law, and the Constitution.
Pot meet kettle. Border patrol agents have legal authority to perform checkpoints within 100 miles of the Nation's border. Save for a few roaming checkpoints these checkpoints are permanent generally 25-50 miles from border crossings near frontier or in areas where the crossings can't be effectively secured. IIRC this all began a long time ago and has been ruled constitutional by SCOTUS many years ago. The argument that this infringes on your fourth ammendment rights is asinine. The agent is only allowed to ask if you are a citizen, where you are going, and where you are from, explain to me how that has anything to do with illegal search and seizure?
ETA: This was passed by SCOTUS in 1976 (United States v. Martinez-Fuerte)
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 8:26 am
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