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re: “Sam Stone” by John Prine really hits home about addiction and the unseen aftermath of war
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:27 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:27 pm to fr33manator
I'll fight any MF-er that downvotes a thread on Sam Stone, in the Sonic parking lot.
John Prine was one of the most amazing songwriters of our time...
John Prine was one of the most amazing songwriters of our time...
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 2:49 pm to OysterPoBoy
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What does he mean by little pitchers have big ears?
I always thought it was saying little "pictures" instead of pitchers.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:23 pm to HDAU
That’s what I thought too
Apparently it’s an old proverb
Apparently it’s an old proverb
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Abstract The titular proverb from the 16th century, not particularly current these days, used to be employed by parents to signal each other that their little children (pitchers) were listening in on something that was not meant for their ears (handles on the pitchers). The assumption was that children could not possibly understand this metaphorical message and, judging by some experiments I have conducted with youngsters as well as my university students, it is indeed a proverb whose hidden meaning is difficult to comprehend. But the proverb also implies that the children are good and keen listeners to what adults are saying, and sooner or later they will catch on at decoding the metaphors of proverbs whose imagery is less obscure.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 8:23 pm to fr33manator
As a Vet I can't stand all that whining and emotion, I don't think anything pisses me off more.
Nine out of Ten of the people I know who served in combat, came back wiser and with a better perspective then those who didn't, and they didn't abuse drugs or wallow in self pity. This includes those wounded.
And the other 10% typically had issues before they went over.
Nine out of Ten of the people I know who served in combat, came back wiser and with a better perspective then those who didn't, and they didn't abuse drugs or wallow in self pity. This includes those wounded.
And the other 10% typically had issues before they went over.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 8:43 pm to OleWar
I didn’t see it as whining, it’s a story and all too common. It’s a sad one.
It’s just a damn powerful song
It’s just a damn powerful song
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:57 pm to Gee Grenouille
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Prine was ahead of his time with this one. A large number of Vietnam vets came back with an opioid addiction and Prine wrote the song about that. The reality of the FDA approving so many opioids since then is sickening. Our govt knew the consequences and their actions are criminal
I wrote this one a while back on the same vein
It was a rough cut jam session just stream consciousness
Dreams of Napalm
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Dreams of Napalm
An old man sits in the alleyway,
A veteran of Vietnam,
They sent him home a casualty,
But he still dreams of napalm,
Captain of the football team,
Some said he was college bound,
But the draft board cut short all his dreams,
Sent his boots to foreign ground,
They were ambushed in the jungle,
When he watched his buddy die,
Then he picked up his machine gun,
And he let the bullets fly,
Yeah they gave him a medal,
For his valiant attack,
But a mine took his legs off,
Before they sent him back,
Well they gave a ticker tape parade,
And he watched it from his chair,
And he tried to live a normal life,
But his mind was still back there,
Yeah the nightmares never seemed to end,
So he pours another glass,
If he’s lucky then he’ll dream again,
Of when he threw a touchdown pass.
Now he shivers,
In the cold,
With his bottle,
Grey and old,
Tattered coat upon his shoulders
But the winter’s getting colder
Yeah an old man sits in the alleyway,
Now his life is at an end,
Just another wasted casualty,
Of a war we couldn’t win,
Yeah the boys they sent away from home,
Those that made it back again,
Tossed aside like trash in the alleyway,
With the wounds that never mend
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:11 am to fr33manator
A Great Song , so deep , so sad
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:53 am to chaso
Sam Stone & Carmelita by Warren Zevon, very, very hard hitters !
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:21 am to chaso
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Carmelita by Warren Zevon
Had never heard this one. Thanks!
Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:15 pm to fr33manator
Fr33man... Sam Stone is more about a lot of men that came back from Vietnam and had a really hard time dealing with life for so many reasons.
Carmelita is more about idiots like me that those men fought for so a lot of us could make idiotic choices.
Carmelita is more about idiots like me that those men fought for so a lot of us could make idiotic choices.
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