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re: Salamoni-Terminated; Lake Suspended- New Videos Released-WBRZ
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:39 am to BeepNode
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:39 am to BeepNode
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Clearly you're not interested in reality. Believe what you want.
If it was that easy to fire the officers, why did they wait until now? If they could just fire the officers as easily as "their taste in music" as you stated, why did Broome Stick fire them 2 seconds after becoming Mayor?
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Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:42 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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But I'm pretty sure he didn't handle the verbal piece of that correctly.
Hands on your Keyboard MF'er.
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 12:47 am
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:47 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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But I'm pretty sure he didn't handle the verbal piece of that correctly.
I am not disagreeing. Blane was never going to be able to work as a BRPD officer again after this anyway but they could of simply kept him on the force, reduce his role to desk jockey, not allow him to work overtime and reduced his pay to minimum wage (This is something that they could of done legally under Civil Service law). He would have eventually resigned and the City of BR wouldn't be open to civil lawsuits. Even if he didn't win, BR taxpayers will still have to pay for attorneys, etc for the case.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:49 am to BeepNode
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This is all legal in any state with at-will employment.
Pretty sure that BRPD officers aren't employed at-will. Don't they have a collective bargaining employment contract through the union?
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 12:51 am
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:51 am to TigerstuckinMS
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Pretty sure that BRPD officers aren't employed at-will. Don't they have a collective employment contract?
Yes, BeepNode doesn't know what he/she is talking about. If police officers could be fired like all others in at-will states, Blane would of been fired a long time ago.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:56 am to LaBR4
It's amazing to me that the same people who rant about how scary and violent North BR is all the time can't comprehend why BS would have used such strong language.
Eta: In his words:
Eta: In his words:
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Salamoni was asked if he normally curses at suspects?
"Normally, no but at the same time anytime when I have a combative suspect in a high risk crime area possibly arm [sic], we do use profanity to gain their attention and compliance. I found through my experience that sometimes that's the only thing that works. You can be as nice to somebody all day, especially someone who is in a high crime area doing drugs. If you say hey please come here sir, they're going to flip you off and run away from you or try to fight you, they're going to take you as a joke.
Through my experience, I know that sometimes I don't use cursing, I don't condone it but I feel that cursing in a high stress risk for your life situation, is 100% used to gain compliance from the suspect. It's showing the suspect that you're not playing and you're not joking. Obviously a lot of thugs and people on drugs curse and I've heard it several times from them."
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 1:03 am
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:08 am to TigerstuckinMS
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Pretty sure that BRPD officers aren't employed at-will. Don't they have a collective bargaining employment contract through the union?
Sure. Civil Service and possibly the union could overturn the firing and even award back pay. This is what prevents a lot of classified employees from being fired. I'm not arguing against that possibility.
What you're talking about is a civil suit where he wins money for damages that exceed the amount of wages lost. Civil Service, nor the unions, has the ability to award people millions of dollars for wrongful termination. That is something that has to happen in civil court. He would have a strong case in court if BRPD and civil service deprived him of due process.
However, if Salamoni appeals to Civil Service and loses and the union doesn't protect him then he has no recourse and no chance at winning in court. None.
It'll play out over time. We'll see..
Posted on 3/31/18 at 2:23 am to BeepNode
Did he say his hands were on the car before they tased him?
Posted on 3/31/18 at 2:51 am to Ed Osteen
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Those cops killed sterling
The frick did Lake do?
Posted on 3/31/18 at 4:02 am to LaBR4
I take back saying that every officer needs a body cam. You really cant tell shite from that one guys cam.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:24 am to vodkacop
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I take back saying that every officer needs a body cam. You really cant tell shite from that one guys cam.
It appears the cams are attached to their radios which aren’t secured to the officer. This makes the cams useless in a struggle bc they easily get dislodged. Maybe this is helpful so they pick it up and aim wherever they want.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:33 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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But I'm pretty sure he didn't handle the verbal piece of that correctly.
Spot on. It’s not just the verbal threats. It’s his tone and demeanor as he’s speaking. He sounds like he’s losing control.
Regardless of why he’s posturing as he is at that moment, it’s horrible optics. Lake doesn’t appear to do anything worthy of criticism, BS did. And that’s all it took to be terminated.
I can’t believe I agree with the decision, but it appears to be the right call.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:48 am to Python
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Except for that part about him threatening people with a gun
Did those people, when the cops showed up, look threatened to you?
You don’t think everything would have gone better if the cops had rolled up, seen that no one was about to get shot, and just drove away?
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:53 am to uway
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:54 am to SheManShe
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the fact that many many people here said this video changed their minds about the officer being fired does hold some substance. Some of these are your usual comply or die folks who have changed their mind after seeing how the officer rolled up on the situation and threatened to blow this guy’s brains out within five seconds.
Oddly enough this video didn't change my mind one bit. I see two cops who did their job.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:54 am to tigerinthebueche
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it’s horrible optics
I hate this term. It sounds just like something an SJW would make up.
No one should care what it looks like. AS was a career criminal, a thug, who probably never held an honest job in his life, never paid taxes, never supported his so-called family, and yet now his family is gonna get paid because of this bullshite term.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:59 am to Tino
Sorry for not hyperventilating over the thought of someone brandishing a gun. 
This is why people stop calling the cops, by the way.
This is why people stop calling the cops, by the way.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:59 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Looks to me like BS should be fired. Now, I'm not going to say whether what he did was right or wrong. I've never been in that situation. But I'm pretty sure he didn't handle the verbal piece of that correctly.
I agree George.
Granted, Alton should have complied from the get-go, but Blane runs up and just pulls out his piece and starts telling him that he’ll shoot him in the head. I originally would have taken Blane’s side, but after seeing the video, I don’t feel sorry for him. I also don’t feel sorry for Alton.
I do feel sorry for Lake because I feel like Salamoni drug him into this all needlessly. Not sure if that’s the truth, but I’ll at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 8:00 am to LongueCarabine
I agree with your assessment of AS. Sorry your snowflake arse is offended by my language. Need a hug, pussy?
Posted on 3/31/18 at 8:00 am to LongueCarabine
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No one should care what it looks like. AS was a career criminal, a thug, who probably never held an honest job in his life, never paid taxes, never supported his so-called family, and yet now his family is gonna get paid because of this bullshite term.
No, they are going to get paid because the cop was worse of a human than Sterling.
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