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re: Sad. Infants in Kentucky dying from whooping cough.

Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Their pediatrician that has had 4 years of med school and at least a 3 year residency


I can't speak for Louisiana, but Kentucky bases their vaccine recommendations from the ACIP. Looking at the board at the moment, it's a combination of epidemiologists and doctors (who would have the experience you're discussing) that makes those recommendations.

ACIP voting board
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:51 pm to
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mom is a drug user or a whore
hate to be the bearer of bad news but they all whores Baw
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:52 pm to
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As far as Hep B, having worked with families who have substance users as parents or recovering addicts that have lifelong Hep B infections, there's still risk for exposure for a newborn outside of the womb IMO. The vaccine itself is low risk, makes sense to vaccinate.


That's understandable. However, when you're talking about healthy babies born into healthy homes, does it need to be done at birth? Low risk doesn't equal no risk. I'm not against vaccines, so the demonization is ridiculous. If we can't be objective about the current shotgun approach, things like this will continue because there is increasing mistrust in our healthcare industry.
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:53 pm to
Guess we all have Hep b
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:53 pm to
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So you agree the baby is only at risk if the mom is a drug user or a whore


No?

Healthcare workers and folks who receive dialysis are also at risk. You're also at risk if you live in a household with a lifelong infected person. It's lower, but it's still a risk.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:53 pm to
What about the children/families whose lives were ruined by vaccines? You know those exist too right? Childhood neglect? Gtfo
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:54 pm to
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The government should encourage and push proven vaccines with decades of data behind them.

It shouldnt force anything.

Fine. As long as the enlightened keep their rabid kids home.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:56 pm to
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What about the children/families whose lives were ruined by vaccines? You know those exist too right? Childhood neglect? Gtfo


For well-research, valid vaccines like Pertussis?

Sorry, unless your child has a medical reason not to be vaccinated for Pertussis they should be. And you should be held accountable if they die as a result of not being vaccinated. Yes, that is childhood neglect.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:58 pm to
Who is the determiner of "well researched" "valid" vaccines?
Posted by BU Bear In BR
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:00 pm to
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I'm trying to understand why Hep B is required at birth when there is no risk of the baby being exposed.


It's not necessarily about the risk, it more has to do with the fact that if a newborn does get Hep B, it develops into a chronic infection that will destroy their liver. Adults have a more developed immune system and will usually able to fully recover from the infection without chronic effects.

Even if mom is negative for Hep B, other people the baby comes into contact with could possibly have it and that increases risk for transmission should somehow someway that person's blood gets on the baby. It is more rare than vertical transmission from mother to baby, but it happens. They want to completely eliminate the risk of transmission.

I understand the risk of transmission is so low, but chronic Hep B is awful and they vaccinate at birth to completely eliminate the risk. I understand though if people who initially refuse and get it later at pediatrician visit.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:01 pm to
Does the article state the age of the infants that died of pertussis?

I'm only asking because the excerpt is specific that infants receive that vaccination at 2mo... but didn't have the age or the health of the babies that died.

Is it possible these infants were 2mo or younger? Or that they were compromised by prior illness or prematurity?

Sometimes these articles are written with the intent to alarm the public into a desired reaction despite the actual details.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Who is the determiner of "well researched" "valid" vaccines?


Doctors who sit on the ACIP? Obviously your state's legislature can decide who they want to pull their recommendations from since this is a state's rights issues.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:02 pm to
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RFK recommends the pertussis vaccine you stupid frick
In a very confusing circular rhetoric that absolutely isn’t understood by his majority base, and he knows it
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:10 pm to
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RFK recommends the pertussis vaccine you stupid frick


Cosmo, this place is mRNA-for-a-doughnut stupid and toothpaste-sandwich head-in-the-oven TDS. May as well call it “TDReddit.”
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:15 pm to
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In a very confusing circular rhetoric that absolutely isn’t understood by his majority base, and he knows it


Is this ESOL? I think I’ve identified the problem.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:17 pm to
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I understand the risk of transmission is so low, but chronic Hep B is awful and they vaccinate at birth to completely eliminate the risk. I understand though if people who initially refuse and get it later at pediatrician visit.


We are in agreement. I think people should be able to ask their ped and have a healthy conversation.

Anyone denying potential for vaccine injury are just as bad as those who are against all vaccines
Posted by EphesianArmor
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:19 pm to
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well-research, valid vaccines like Pertussis?


??? Utter nonsense to the nth degree.

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Sorry, unless your child has a medical reason not to be vaccinated for Pertussis they should be. And you should be held accountable if they die as a result of not being vaccinated. Yes, that is childhood neglect.


The real "neglect" is in NOT researching the truth on this vax and any other vax. They have always been bio-weapons to slow-kill and damage our DNA. Oh. And MY body. MY choice. (with all due respect to your ill-advised Stalinist decree).

Your position really is simply a crock of misinformation, disinformation, and propagandist fear porn echoed from corrupt Mainstream Medical Mercenaries.

Did you not get the memo on the mass casualties, sudden death, juvinile cancers, sudden chronic illness from the toxic "Covid vax" ingredients list -- that include mRNA, mercury, fetal material, monkey DNA, etc?? The epidemic from Autism, Alzheimers, mentally illness? VAXXES. Or do you think all of this is "misinfo"?

I repeat: ALL. Vaxxes. Are. Bio-weapons. The overlords hate us.

The REAL information and truth respecting "Pertussis" and the rest of Rockefeller Medicine's weaponized vax / euthanasia program is readily available to ANYONE willing to research the subject. But first you must be de-programmed from decades of mind control and fear porn conditioning.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:22 pm to
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Anyone denying potential for vaccine injury are just as bad as those who are against all vaccines


Actually these people are a million miles worse. Then again they have Stockholm Syndrome from a lifetime of thanking their abusers -- Rockefeller Medicine disciples, advocates, and medical mercenaries.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:25 pm to
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And in this case you should be reported to CHFS for not properly vaccinating your child from a communicable disease that is dangerous to the public. IMO that is textbook childhood neglect.
if you and your partner’s thayby are all vaccinated how is my kid creating a danger?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:26 pm to
People will say "ACTUALLY RFK just wants vaccines to be well-researched and he's for the proven ones," then someone will come along and say this

quote:

Did you not get the memo on the mass casualties, sudden death, juvinile cancers, sudden chronic illness from the toxic "Covid vax" ingredients list -- that include mRNA, mercury, fetal material, monkey DNA, etc?? The epidemic from Autism, Alzheimers, mentally illness? VAXXES. Or do you think all of this is "misinfo"?

I repeat: ALL. Vaxxes. Are. Bio-weapons. The overlords hate us.

The REAL information and truth respecting "Pertussis" and the rest of Rockefeller Medicine's weaponized vax / euthanasia program is readily available to ANYONE willing to research the subject. But first you must be de-programmed from decades of mind control and fear porn conditioning.
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