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re: Russian Court Upholds Brittney Griner’s 9-Year Sentence
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:01 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:01 am to LNCHBOX
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Then you should be able to link to your defense of anyone else besides "her." Feel free to shut us up with proof.
I'm pretty sure I'm the only person, or the first person on these boards to mention Bilal Abdul Kareem, a US citizen who was targeted by the US government under the Obama admin, and whose case was adjudicated by the Obama and Trump admins, where the US gov gave the reasoning that it should be allowed to execute citizens if it was in the interest of national security. I have more if you want to go through my post history.
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:01 am to crazy4lsu
Who else have you supported on this site?
In similar circumstances.
In similar circumstances.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So this is normal behavior for you, to have such personal angst when someone willingly breaks the law.
What does the Russian criminal code say about what her punishment should be? I'm not denying she broke a law, I'm suggesting something else, you silly goose.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:03 am to crazy4lsu
quote:1. Not related to this case at all.
I'm pretty sure I'm the only person, or the first person on these boards to mention Bilal Abdul Kareem, a US citizen who was targeted by the US government under the Obama admin, and whose case was adjudicated by the Obama and Trump admins, where the US gov gave the reasoning that it should be allowed to execute citizens if it was in the interest of national security. I have more if you want to go through my post history.
2. The political execution of a US citizen was a hot topic on here at that time, a lot of people were opposed to it, while others supported it because of the “terrorist” fervor.
What are you talking about?
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 11:04 am
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:03 am to crazy4lsu
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a US citizen who was targeted by the US government
Any examples of what we're actually talking about here? Cuz this ain't it.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:04 am to TH03
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you think she'd be released because she's black and not because she's a fairly famous athlete?
Before she got arrested there weren’t a dozen people in America who could have told you who she was. There’s bigger crowds outside of a Best Buy on Black Friday than at a WNBA game.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Who else have you supported on this site?
In similar circumstances.
Several Americans in the ME, if you want to go through my post history. Just this past week, a US citizen was sentenced to 16 years in Saudi Arabia for tweets critical of the regime. I could search through my posts on the Saudis alone and find a few examples, but that will take time. You can do it too if you would like.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:05 am to crazy4lsu
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Several Americans in the ME, if you want to go through my post history
source, trust me bro.
Yall are lightning fast with these downvotes
Wish yall were that fast at backing up your claims. This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 11:06 am
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:06 am to crazy4lsu
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What? The key distinction in all the Russian articles about transportation is whether it was for sale or in amounts that are 'large-scale' with no particular definition given to 'large-scale.' What are you talking about?
She pled guilty to
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possession without intent to sell and traveling into Russia with a controlled substance.
Not sure why you care so much about large amounts or selling.
Irrelevant
It carries 5-10 years
She got 10 with her 6 months served
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:06 am to crazy4lsu
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What does the Russian criminal code say about what her punishment should be?
Anything larger than .6g is a criminal offense. Since she smuggled it in (Its plentiful there, comes from Kazakhstan, shes just stupid) she was hit with trafficking, up to ten years.
Go to Russian and protest, I'll be your biggest supporter
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:07 am to Caraway Rye
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possession without intent to sell and traveling into Russia with a controlled substance.
Correct. Lots of goobers shooting blind here.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:08 am to Godfather1
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after 9 years in the gulag, she’s not gonna be playing ball for anybody.
I'm curious if her partner has access to griner's bank accounts etc?
Imagine spending 9 years in a Russian prison to come home and found out you have nothing left and can't play ball so you've got to get a 9-5 job.
Hate to see it happen.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:09 am to LNCHBOX
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Any examples of what we're actually talking about here? Cuz this ain't it.
Yeah go through my post history and you can find it. Laura Ling would be one, but that was a decade ago. Ali Shakeri might be another and the three others imprisoned in Iran in 2007, but I don't recall if I posted about that on the poliboard. Otto Warmbier I'm pretty sure I defended too.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:09 am to WDE24
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Other then her having a small amount of fame, what legitimate reason is there for the government to involve itself in this matter?
Governments have to look after their citizens, even if they did something wrong. It’s is usually handled thru back door prisoner swaps. The Marine is probably more important than Griner. You cannot allow foreign countries to play politics with your citizens.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:10 am to crazy4lsu
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Yeah go through my post history
No, you provide it with actual links, or I will continue thinking you're full of shite.
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Laura Ling would be one, but that was a decade ago. Ali Shakeri might be another and the three others imprisoned in Iran in 2007, but I don't recall if I posted about that on the poliboard. Otto Warmbier I'm pretty sure I defended too.
Any a-hole can google and list some names real quick. I suspect that's what you're doing. Should be easy to prove me wrong.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:10 am to crazy4lsu
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Yeah go through my post history and you can find it. Laura Ling would be one, but that was a decade ago.
yeah, we should take your word for it.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:11 am to Caraway Rye
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Not sure why you care so much about large amounts or selling.
Because that is what the Russian criminal code refers to when it describes the heavier sentences.
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"Large scale" in this Article, as well as in Article 228.1 and 229 of this Code, shall
mean a quantity of a narcotic drug, psychotropic substance or their analogue exceeding
the average one-time consumption dose by 10 or more times, and an especially large
scale - by 50 and more times. The quantity of average one-time doses of narcotic drugs
and psychotropic substances for the purposes of this Article, as well as of Articles 228.1
and 229 of this Code, shall be endorsed by the Government of the Russian Federation.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:12 am to Tigers4Lyfe
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What was the stupid game she played? Accidentally bringing what was legal for her to have in the US with her?
I guarantee you make mistakes in life too.
It'd be a different story if she just ignored their law and arrogantly did it anyway, but by all accounts that isn't the case.
Your argument might have merit if she hadn't lived and worked in Russia for years. She had flown back and forth many times. She knew the law, period. She chose to break it. This isn't a case of some ignorant, first time international traveler. She had an established life and decent paying career in that country. She was a part-time resident. If anything, she should be held to a higher standard.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:13 am to LNCHBOX
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Any a-hole can google and list some names real quick. I suspect that's what you're doing. Should be easy to prove me wrong.
Lol, let me just name drop some Iranian-Americans who were imprisoned.
Also, Laura Ling's imprisonment was a massive case a decade ago, was it not?
I don't care if you think I'm full of shite. I've followed ME politics for a decade and written thousands of posts about the subject. You can go through them if you can understand them.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:13 am to Auburn80
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Governments have to look after their citizens, even if they did something wrong.
Not when they break the laws of another country.
She plead guilty, got the time afforded by law. I don't see the problem.
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By pleading guilty, Ms. Griner has potentially accelerated her case’s conclusion, clearing a path for either a deal with the United States or, perhaps, a request for clemency.
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With a guilty verdict an all but a foregone conclusion in a Russian legal system that heavily favors the prosecution, her best hope, experts say, is that the Biden administration secure her freedom by releasing a Russian held in the United States.
LINK
Smuggling.
She plead guilty to a charge which could carry 10 years. It was known by everyone that the Russian courts are extremely hard on smugglers.
Yet people still defend her.
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 11:14 am
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