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Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:10 pm to jordan21210
The biggest difference in a US MD and a Caribbean is clinical experience. The clinical rotations generally aren't comparable. It's important to train at a large, tertiary care center no matter what specialty you go into or what type of practice you enter after residency. Medicine is so much easier when you've been exposed to the rarest of diseases and don't just read about them in textbooks.
Caribbean grads (and DOs) generally do clinicals and residency at community hospitals where their exposure is limited.
Caribbean grads (and DOs) generally do clinicals and residency at community hospitals where their exposure is limited.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:13 pm to Maverick01
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You should have just taken your arse to an Osteopathic school
My primary care physician is an Osteopath. He's good at what he does and we like him other than the fact that he went to Ole Miss for undergrad.
I know people with 29-31 MCAT scores that had trouble getting into the urban osteopathic schools on the first try. They are mostly private and don't usually have an "in state" preference like LSU or Alabama does, so it never hurts to apply broadly to schools like PCOM, etc. Most of them do seem to be pretty selective though.
It seems like DO and MD schools in the US are slowly expanding their class sizes....which will probably make it more challenging for Caribbean grads to compete for residency slots eventually.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:15 pm to jose
I doubt competitive residencies.
How'd you do on step 1 and where are you doing clinicals?
How'd you do on step 1 and where are you doing clinicals?
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:16 pm to jose
Good luck.
I read on Wiki, I think, that Ross had just upped their percentage to 55%.
I don't know if that's good or bad.
I read on Wiki, I think, that Ross had just upped their percentage to 55%.
I don't know if that's good or bad.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:21 pm to Parallax
I did well on step 1, 230+ and I'm currently doing my psych rotation in Shreveport
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:22 pm to Parallax
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The biggest difference in a US MD and a Caribbean is clinical experience. The clinical rotations generally aren't comparable. It's important to train at a large, tertiary care center no matter what specialty you go into or what type of practice you enter after residency. Medicine is so much easier when you've been exposed to the rarest of diseases and don't just read about them in textbooks.
Caribbean grads (and DOs) generally do clinicals and residency at community hospitals where their exposure is limited.
This all sounds like the opinion and conjecture of a young MD resident who doesn't understand DO or Caribbean curriculums or programs. None of what you've said can be proven as factual one way or another - assuming you're trying to construe it that way.
My girlfriend is a DO from a prestigious osteopathic school (so I suppose I am biased, but I digress) and she matched into a Louisiana MD residency - if anyone would bother learning what exactly a DO is, they'd realize the line between a DO and MD is very thin.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:30 pm to Parallax
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Caribbean grads (and DOs) generally do clinicals and residency at community hospitals where their exposure is limited.
Not sure where you are getting this from but my school has rotations at Jackson Park in Chicago, Wyckoff Heights in Brooklyn, and Harbor Hospital in Baltimore. I'd imagine the exposure there is decent. I wouldn't know yet for sure because I have rotated through them yet.
And I also know of two people from a few classes ahead of me who matched Friday to residencies in Louisiana. They also are from Louisiana.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:30 pm to jordan21210
I definitely understand DO and Caribbean programs, and I would like for your to prove anything I've said is wrong. DO is a better option than Caribbean but it's still not close to US MD. Most DO clinicals are preceptor based at community hospitals - not ideal. Like I've said, there are a lot of residency programs your girlfriend or her classmates couldn't interview at. This is fact.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:32 pm to jose
quote:Not tertiary care academic centers.
Jackson Park in Chicago, Wyckoff Heights in Brooklyn, and Harbor Hospital in Baltimore
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:35 pm to ctiger69
There is no comparison between the opportunities a US grad from a US med school has compared to a Ross grad.
That being said, there are many good doctors from these schools.
That being said, there are many good doctors from these schools.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:36 pm to jordan21210
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My girlfriend is a DO from a prestigious osteopathic school (so I suppose I am biased, but I digress) and she matched into a Louisiana MD residency - if anyone would bother learning what exactly a DO is, they'd realize the line between a DO and MD is very thin
I didn't know what a DO was until a friend of mine went to DO school. I admit to just assuming every physician was an MD before learning that DO's go through pretty much the same curriculum, compete for the same residencies, and practice the same medicine.
And from what I understand, most DO schools aren't exactly easy to get into.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:41 pm to member12
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And from what I understand, most DO schools aren't exactly easy to get into.
The best DO school's GPA and MCAT scores are well below just about any MD school except for perhaps the Puerto Rican or HBC schools.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:43 pm to Parallax
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Like I've said, there are a lot of residency programs your girlfriend or her classmates couldn't interview at. This is fact.
There are a lot of very competitive residency programs that the average MD grad won't be able to match into as well.
And from a patient's perspective....I know far too many incompetent MD's from American medical schools to conclude that a physician simply having those letters behind their name automatically means they know their arse from a hole in the ground. Physicians in general vary greatly in quality just like every other skilled profession.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:53 pm to Yellerhammer5
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The best DO school's GPA and MCAT scores are well below just about any MD school except for perhaps the Puerto Rican or HBC schools
The average MCAT at PCOM is 27 with a 3.5 GPA. That's on par with most state MD schools significant ahead of the HBCs like Meherry....and a far cry from most island schools.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 9:57 pm to member12
That's not on par with most state schools. There are some DO schools with incoming student stats better than bottom tier US MD schools, but they are usually in desirable areas (one of the coasts) and much less competitive than the nearby US MD schools.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 10:01 pm to jose
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For the past several years, my school is matching more and more students into competing residencies.
Not really.
MUA 2015 match list
Posted on 3/20/16 at 10:03 pm to ctiger69
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I had a friend was accepted here a couple of years ago. He was turned down by LSU med school numerous times and he was accepted into Ross med school first try. He had an undergrad GPA of 2.9 and scored a 20 on his MCAT. He has another 2 years left until residency.
Has anybody heard of this school? A quick search tells me it is in the Dominica and they basically accept everybody who applies. I think my friend is going to struggle to find a residency once he is finished. But anyways he is trying to tell my other friend, who is smart, to apply for med school at Ross. And I'm saying why would you want to go to a foreign med school especially if you are smart enough to get accepted into a US med school. Can anybody name some advantages?
Ross is one of the Big3 Caribbean schools. Ross, AUC, and St. George have USMLE passing rates around ~97% which is similar to the US medical schools, and are the only 3 medical schools in the caribbean that qualify for loans from the DOE. All 3 schools have residency placement rates close to the national average for the US schools. Ross just takes alot of ppl, but if your friend has survived the first 2 years of medical school and 2 years living on Dominica (especially after the hurricane last august really f***ed the island up) he is fine, and if he does well on the USMLE will have no trouble getting a residency.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 10:05 pm to MrSpock
Lots of LSU affiliated residencies. I love my home state but we struggle getting US grads from outside of Louisiana.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 10:08 pm to MrSpock
That is a pretty tough match list
Not too many competitive residencies on it
Not too many competitive residencies on it
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